Steel Urethral Dilator with Lock

Posted by Mistress160 on Wednesday Jan 11, 2012 Under CBT

We visited Steve Sax’s leather workshop and store in Byron Bay yesterday and came away with an interesting item to try. Steve had received it as a sample and wanted to know whether the design was functional and the item worth adding to his already enormous stock.

It’s a stainless steel urethral dilator with a locking mechanism. Yum. I’m sure you can see why we were interested to give it a go. It’s constructed of two pieces:

Here they are together:

We’d only been home minutes before we wanted to try this out lol.  We washed the device thoroughly and got out the lube, then sol slipped the ringed piece of the device over his cock and balls:

 

 Lots of lube was placed on the rod going into sol:

 

And well as down and on sol’s urethra.  While I’m comfortable inserting sounds into sol this was a new item and sol was upright, so I directed him to push the rod down his urethra himself. Sol enjoys sounding very much so he was looking forward to trying this:

He used the rod to push lube further down his urethra and then reinserted it:

Finally it was all in:

I then locked the device with one of Sax’s locks, that we use on sol’s chastity devices:

 The whole thing looked amazing:

 And very hot!

Sol found it a real turn on, too. He was able to stand up and walk around, as long as he was careful. 

To see how it worked with erections I had sol go down on me for a while, as this always gets him hard. He WAS able to get erect.

It was 4.45pm. I said “let’s leave it in until 6pm and I’ll check on you every half an hour. Let me know too if you need a pee and we can test that, too”. He went out to finish a kinky woodwork project and I checked on him out there at 5.30pm:

He said:

“you are aware of it all the time and I’m getting very horny. It keeps moving around when you walk, so essentially it’s sliding in and out as your cock grows and shrinks”

We wondered whether this meant it wouldn’t work under clothing. Then again clothing might it hold it in place. Something we can test next time.

I found the device especially erotic from behind, the way the metal pieces and the lock swung down between his legs:

 It reminded me of Story of O.

Just before 6pm he needed a pee so I had him fetch a bucket. Because the device is solid we were not sure he’d be able to go. But all went well:

Sol said:

“It was a bit difficult as obviously you are peeing around a steel rod but it was fine”

 He cleaned up:

And then I took the lock off:

And I removed the rod as sol took photos. Gently:

Gently:

Until finally it was out. Here I am showing that all is well with sol’s urethra:

Sol had a little bit of burning with his next pee but nothing more than he usually experiences after sounds play.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

We had a lot of fun with this device, and plan to have lots more. Thank you again to Steve Sax for suggesting we try this sample. We’ll certainly recommend stocking it.

  • We see it as a short term play device rather than a long term one (like a classic chastity device) that can be used in general play. For example, I was thinking of having him wear it next time he’s wearing a butt plug. The double sensation was be pretty intense.
  • The only problem was that the rings were a bit big for sol and slipped down a bit when he was not erect or just walking around. We’ve seen examples of this for sale where there are two ring sizes (44.4mm ( 1 3/4″ ) and 50.8mm ( 2″ )) so we’ll suggest to Steve that he stock both.
  • The urethral plug was small enough for sol to pee out of it, which means it was a perfect fit. The maximum diameter of the urethra plug 8mm(0.315″), effective length of about 9cm(3.54″).
  • Because of the ring size and the length of the device sol was able to get a (slightly bent) erection but as we don’t plan to use the device as a chastity device, that’s not a problem. 
  • As with sounding, lube (and re-lubing) is VERY important. Remember, lube shooters are useful for things other than anal play *grin*

What sol especially liked:

  • the feeling of the urethral dilation. As always in terms of describing sounding sensations he found the actual sensation impossible to articulate.
  • sol now wants to try a Princes wand: “it make you think a prince’s wand would be worth playing with because as you shrink it goes further into you, not the other way around like this”

 What I especially liked:

  • It changes the dynamic of sounding. It’s like sounding “on the go”, so to speak. Usually with sounding sol is flat on a massage bed with me inserting the sounds as he lies still. You absolutely must not move with sounds. With this device I can insert the device and lock him in, then send him out to do household chores. Very carefully of course.
  •  The look and sound of the device. As I wrote above they remind me of O’s metal rings between her legs, in Story of O (“The irons attached to the left lobe of her belly cleft, proclaiming in bold letters that she was Sir Stephen’s personal property, came about a third of the way down her thigh and, at every step, swung back and forth between her legs like the clapper of a bell, the inscribed disk being heavier and longer than the ring to which it was attached”)
  • How turned on the device makes us both :)
 WANT ONE?

S(A)X doesn’t have this device listed yet but if Steve decides to stock it I’ll add a link here :) (you might like to check out his other cock and ball toys and chastity devices)

You’ll find similar devices at various fetish stores. Google “urethral dilator with lock” or even just “penis plugs”, there are so many amazing designs. In selecting one you need to think through what you want to do with such a device. Do you want one so tight you can’t pee or come through it?  Or one that’s hollow?  What about erections?  If you are looking for an open chastity device with a major urethral component have a look at Male Chastity Now’s Cock Trap:

“the Cock Trap seizes the penis while soft, and locks on to prevent erection, intercourse or masturbation…. Just slide his testicles and penis through the solid steel ring, then insert the hollow urethral wand into his flaccid penis using a personal lubricant. Finally, lock it all together with the included padlock. The compact design keeps the penis naturally pointed downward, so bulging and noticeability is virtually non-existent. The urethral wand is rounded for easy insertion, and allows him to urinate while remaining confined. This innovative, open design makes the device much more hygienic to use than devices which completely enclose the penis. The CockTrap uses a hollow tube, allowing urine to flow through the tube when the wearer uses the bathroom. The standard outer tube diameter is 5/16,” though custom made devices with larger diameter tubing are available for the daring or advanced user”

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Ms160
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Stapling sol a new orifice…

Posted by Mistress160 on Wednesday Aug 10, 2011 Under Caning, CBT
MzAntonina fucking sol’s new

orifice, created via stapling

this is an edgeplay post



please don’t read

if you are not interested in:

medical play

blood play

stapler play

A few months back now sol and I attended a workshop presented by Bella447 and her lovely boyPaulus on using medical staples in BDSM play. I later blogged:


“Medical play is popular in the scene and covers everything from Dr / nurse role play and examinations to needle play, catheters, enemas, saline infusions, sounding, as well as various body modifications (piercings, brandings etc). A lot of these are edgeplay techniques that need to be properly taught. Which is why we were planning to spend the weekend attending Bella447’s workshops

I wrote this about the topic and the workshop:


” I knew that in the US one can attend “Electronic Stapling Sensation Play Workshops” (such as those run by Markher and the pennygurl) and had also read about Teppycat’s experience of being stapled from an electric stapler:

“There was also a demo of using a staple gun during play — not a medical stapler, not an office-supply type stapler; an electric goddamn staple gun from Home Depot. The presenters were a couple — top and bottom — who actually made getting stapled in the ass look fun. (Well, maybe not the ass.) They explained in detail all the safety stuff first — how to make sure that the staples and gun are exceedingly clean — clean enough to puncture human skin without running the risk of infection. And then they just started stapling…”

Bella447 was not using “an electric goddamn staple gun from Home Depot” but a medical / surgical stapler:

“Surgical staplers are devices which bend a usually stainless steel “staple” across an incision as an alternative to sutures. They have a slightly lower rate of infection and are quicker to apply, but are much more difficult to remove in a DIY context (a specialized staple remover is strongly recommended, although they can be hand-removed). Staples are rarely used in atypical body modification and are more common as a part of BDSM play in this context”

“The sterile medical staples that come in these staplers look like everyday staples, except the ends curve in towards each other when they go in. They don’t far into the skin, less than a needle, and as Monk and Mistress Matisse have noted, it’s an easy device to delivery a lot of sensation quickly.

“In Bella and Paulus’ demonstration the staples didn’t appear to hurt much going in, but you can certainly make the experience more intense by where you place them and how you plan your scene…”

I then quoted Mistress Matisse, who uses staples in this wonderful scene. Now, ever since reading Mistress Matisse’s post and attending Bella’s workshop sol and I have discussed extremely evil ideas for a very particular scene involving staples and his genitals. We also knew exactly who we wanted to join us for this scene: the elegant and always fiendish MzAntonina :)

While we waited for our next trip to Sydney, I did some research on our proposed scene. But as I found when I wrote about our stapling workshop there is very little info about the technique of BDSM stapling online. Even on Fet I was not able to find any related images or text, although I was able to find photos of the female equivalent of what we wanted to do. To see what I’m on about, check out this photo on Fet. Surely it could also be done with males? Surely we were not the first to think about it? Perhaps we are more perverse than I thought!

We drove down to Sydney last Friday, had a wonderful butterfly boarding scene with MzAntonina on Saturday, and commenced this scene late Sunday afternoon. We had negotiated two scenes, the first combining staples and caning and a backup scene in case the stapling didn’t work, of chemical play and caning.

Sol lay face up unrestrained on MzAntonina’s massage table wearing a corset top and black stockings. Between his legs we placed the medical stapler, the staple remover and lots of Medi-Swipes:



I showed MzAntonina how to use the surgical stapler, then we practiced inserting staples on sol’s upper arm. As I wrote before, medical staples are like normal staples, except the ends curve in toward each other when they go in. Here we are removing the practice staples with the great little removal device:



As Bella447 had said at her workshop, medical stapling is incredibly easy! Now it was time to see if our cunning plan would work. We folded sol’s cock between his balls, then wrapped the skin of his scrotum around everything. While MzAntonina held things in place:



I swabbed sol with alcohol wipes and then began stapling:



First two staples:



Four staples:



Eight staples:



Time for MzAntonina to have a turn stapling while I held sol together:



Here’s the final “package”:



It really did look extraordinary:



Here’s sol feeling his new look:



Watching his face was fascinating, as his hand first cupped the entire area and then his fingers gently explored…. Now it was time for a little sensation play on the “package”. First MzAntonina ran her fingernails over it:



Then our five headed wartenberg wheels:







We added a few more staples:



Until it looked like this:



But the extra ones at each end pulled too much so we took them out:



This left interesting areas of possible intrusion that could be explored *grin*. But first we spent some time each running our vibrating sound around the staples and taut skin:



After I added lube MzAntonina began inserting the vibrating sound into sol’s new “cunt”:



Both sol and I at the same time made a comment about Storm Constantine’s book Hermatech, in which one of the characters:

“Zambia Crevecoeur has ambitions well above his abilities and considerable pride … club owner, Jahsaxa Penumbra wants him in her stable of whores. Having reduced him to penury and desperation, Penumbra presents the offer that he can’t refuse. There is a new surgical technique that allows for implanting additional sexual organs in the body, for creating a new kind of human that is neither male nor female and is able to please either, or both, or several”

I think sol was definitely feeling like Zambia with lots of new orifices during this scene!



Using the vibrating sound like this was so hot to watch, sol making very happy noises during all of this:



We each took turns:



Then I picked up the wartenburg wheels again and ran them over the actual staples:



At one point MzAntonina introduced her finger into the bottom of the “package”:



Which gave me the idea of introducing another sound there … now sol was being fucked by both of us at the same time:



I could feel the vibration traveling down from the sound at the top, it felt amazing. Sol wrote on Fet later “it felt pretty incredible being fucked in two brand new orifices”. When he saw the photos he addedWow. Of course I didn’t actually see this at the time – it looks amazing”. Although he was obviously really enjoying the scene at the time, at about this point I did become aware he couldn’t see anything so I switched the camera to video, and shot about a minute of footage. I might upload it here later if I can work out how.

When MzAntonina and I checked the time we were stunned to find an hour and a half had passed. It really was that intense. Sol’s staples could have stayed in for a while, in fact I’ve been thinking of further stapling chastity and watersports games that might be played in future. But now it was time to remove them. Here they are, nearly out, sol having been well and truly fucked:





We then turned sol over for the last part of the scene: a caning:



MzAntonina stood to sol’s left, I stood on his right, which worked well in terms of our being right and left handed. We worked our way through various implements. This photo is out of focus but I wanted to post it because of the way it shows MzAntonina’s (delrin?) cane striking sol’s cheeks:



After about ten minutes of strokes MzAntonina applied her leather vampire gloves:



Which brought up the blood very nicely. For the finale MzAntonina particularly enjoyed applying our plastic covered wire cane:



At the end of the scene MzAntonina gave us some privacy to finish. I allowed sol to masturbate:



While I applied the wartenberg wheels to his nipples …. hard:



After he came I looked down and laughed. “Your poor genitals have had enough for the day” I said, “your balls have vanished right up inside you!”



REFERENCES AND ONLINE RESOURCES:

Presenters:

If you are in Australia and would like to invite Bella447 to present on stapling, please contact her through her Fetlife profile.

Quite a few BDSM presenters offer stapling workshops in the US. Amongst them:

  • Wintersong offers Skin Stapling for Pain and Pleasure The skin stapler is a remarkable versatile and self contained tool for play. You can use it to achieve everything from lovely patterns, to delicious pain, to bondage and chastity. This class will cover the variety of uses for this fabulous tool from the basic to the more advanced”
  • Slutress and Zebrianna’s Skin Stapling 101 presentation “will help you to better utilize the sub-dermal technics of Staples. Learn “hands on” how to utilize various Stapling techniques for pain as well as pleasure. Learn how to make beautiful designs and art work with Staples and other supplies. Like Corsets, wings, flowers and more. Imaginations are encourage.

Can’t locate a real time presenter? These might keep your interest up while you search:


“Violet and Zachariah gives an introductory chat about the tools used in BDSM Medical Stapling, along with practical tips and safety information. Note: Always take a live course in this sort of activity from an experienced practitioner in your community before attempting to try it out yourself.”

“Dottie from Needle Play Design uses Starfire to introduce skin stapling in this 7-minute clip. Dottie identifies the precise staple gun to use, demonstrates exactly how the gun works, compares and contrasts skin stapling with needle play (e.g., length of time to keep in the skin, pain levels, etc.), recommends where and where not to staple, shows how to make an arm corset – and highlights safety throughout”

General:

bdsm play pen – Stapled!

bdsmweblog.com – Sounding and Staples and Shocking. Oh My!

Forum threadThread on stapling

Mistress Matisse – Hurt The Ones you Love

Mistress Matisse – Staplers and BDSM toy taplers and other BDSM toys we love podcast


The Switch is not a Myth Fire on my back and staples in my arm

Thank you:

as I wrote on Fet

Many thanks to MzAntonina for her inspired

participation in this incredibly erotic scene :)

and to Bella447

for her inspiring workshop!

Photos:

Ms160

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Vibrating Sound – first play

Posted by Mistress160 on Wednesday Jun 29, 2011 Under Uncategorized



Regular readers will know we are urethral play addicts, and have been lusting after a vibrating sound for a while. On my birthday we visited S(A)X in Byron Bay and checked out the ones S(A)X stock:

They looked great and I loved their red and black cases. S(A)X’s website says:

“The Vibrating Urethral Sound can be used to pinpoint stimulate other areas such as the nipples and earlobes. You can even insert this device into any orifice you want and then turn it on. The Vibrating Urethral Sound should be used with care, it has been known to cause extreme fatigue from extreme orgasmic reactions.”

*grin*.

While we were looking at them Steve Sax showed us another vibrating sound, a similar one that he’d been sent by another manufacturer. Would we give this sample a try? Would we ever. Thank you Steve :)

We couldn’t wait to try it. Once home, we assembled a tray with a clean towel, tissues, lube and the sound:


I washed my hands with antibacterial gel, did the same with the sound (as it doesn’t reach the bladder we needed hygienic but not sterile play conditions) and then we retired to bed. I sat cross legged, next to sol. I moved his PA ring back:


Then lubed up the sound:


Then lubed up sol’s urethra:


Here I am wiping lube away from the bottom of his cock, so it would not be too slippery to hold up!:


I slowly and gently dropped the sound into sol:


Further:


And further, until it was almost all in:


Still not turning the device on, I fucked him gently for about 20 seconds, and then I turned it on. sol found the sensation not exactly pleasurable but intense. Obviously this toy was going to have a lot of potential….

After about 30 seconds of holding it steady in him, I moved the sound gently up and down for about another 30 seconds. Then suddenly sol (Mr I Never Safeword) safeworded. “Take it out!!” I did, as fast and carefully as I could. As I did, the metal side brushed against the index finger that was holding sol’s cock upright. “Ow!” I yelped, “I’m burned! How the fuck can THAT happen???”. Both of us then saw a wisp of smoke or steam.

I turned the sound off (not easy with lubed hands), removed the top and shook the battery out and threw the sound down onto a towel. sol and I both looked at it. I poked it. It lay there silent and well behaved, cooling slowly.

We checked out how it was constructed (the next three photos were taken by me the next day):


It’s very simple. It’s made of several pieces of metal, with a solid shaft, and room for a single AAA battery in the top:


There is no on / off switch – tightening the screw top completes the battery connection:


Not much to go wrong. And if you look at the design of other vibrating sounds on the market, from lots of different vendors, they share the same basic construction.

Sure, if we’d had the thing running half an hour, it might overheat, as our friend dunalot reminded us later:

“Don’t let it run for too long at any one time. Many a good vibrating toy has stopped working through overuse …. seems the motors are sometimes not durable enough for marathon sessions”

We’ve all heard horror stories of vibrators overheating – for example this reviewer re the “unruly rabbit” vibrator noting:

“It actually sparked. It over heats and has NO place being near your lady parts. Do not buy this vibrator, ever”

But sounds? Certainly being metal wouldn’t help, but it had been less than five minutes….

Time for a few tests. We put the battery back in, but a different way and let it run for over 5 minutes. No heat. We reversed the battery so it was the same way as when the problem occurred, and turned it on for over 5 minutes. No heat.

We looked at each other. This toy was too much fun not to try again, so I turned it on again, and off we went…

I began using it externally. I tried it on sol’s nipples:


And around his cock head:


And shaft:


All of which he enjoyed. As there was no apparent heat build up I lubed sol up and entered just a little of his urethra:


Then I let him come…. the perfect end of my birthday scene :)

The next day I went online and googled “vibrating sound overheating” and similar words. Nothing. I tried “vibrating sound review”. Again, not much, although I did find a couple of very positive reviews on the Bondara site:

“This sound not only does its work when I insert it, it also vibrates. I’ve used plain sounds before but nothing like this. The sound is a good size for me. It fits perfectly inside me and makes me VERY hard. The vibrations make the experience even better. The only problem I have is that I come very fast and very hard, as if that’s a problem. The ring at the end makes for easy retrieval or I add a weight to get extra stimulation. This is a fine sound and I enjoy using it very much.
Review by: Andy

“This is the highest quality sound I’ve ever used. It vibrates which makes it even more enticing. I use it both externally and especially internally as a sounding device. It’s amazing! It’s packaged well and easy to use. I get the best stretching and stimulation from this sounding device. It gives me all the satisfaction I need.
Review by: Angel”

Which confirms what we’ve heard from friends: everyone really likes vibrating sounds :). But it didn’t help explain our incident, so I headed to the Sounding and Urethral Insertion group on Fet and asked had anyone else experienced this problem?

So far, no one seems to have encountered this. Steve_C noted:

“Hmm, never ever seen that happen. I can imagine it was a tad upsetting. Wonder if there was a wee electrical short circuit happening, a wire ‘wisp’ that has now burned thru? They certainly shouldn’t overheat, and I’ve used them inserted for quite long periods, vibrating while passing TENS current thru them happy evil grin”

We think he’s right about that ” wee electrical short circuit happening, a wire ‘wisp’ that has now burned thru”. It makes sense, because the toy is now working perfectly.

The vibrating sound is a really great additional to your toy box and even after this experience we would recommend purchasing it. We are the only people who seem to have experienced this problem, so it’s unlikely to occur. But because the consequences could have been really severe we think it’s important to let our readers know what happened.

Don’t let this put you off buying one. We’d simply suggest you give your new toy a couple of quick safety tests before you play with it:

  • Give it a good clean in and out after purchase
  • Insert the battery both ways and run it for a while, just to check if there is any heat build up
  • Then during your first play keep it external for a bit first, while checking for heat
  • Make sure your play partner is not gagged. You want him able to communicate quickly if something goes wrong.

WANT ONE?

As I wrote at the top of the post ours was a sample from a different manufacturer. These are the ones S(A)X actually stock and sell:

“The Vibrating Urethral Sound can be used to pinpoint stimulate other areas such as the nipples and earlobes. You can even insert this device into any orifice you want and then turn it on. The Vibrating Urethral Sound should be used with care, it has been known to cause extreme fatigue from extreme orgasmic reactions.

“There are three sizes:

“Small total length 18cm (7inches) insertable length 10cm (4inches), dia.6mm (0.25inch).
$99.00

“Medium total length 20cm (8inches) insertable length 11cm (4.25inches), dia.7mm (0.3inch). $109.00

Large total length 29cm (11.5inches) insertable length 16.5cm (6.5inches), dia.10mm (0.5inch). $119.00

Small and Medium are supplied in cases with one AAA battery. The Large is supplied in a case with two AAA batteries.

More info here :)

Steve has kindly offered to let us do a test run on one of these, and I’m looking forward to it. I’ll link to anything I write about them.

REFERENCES AND ONLINE RESOURCES

Bondara UKReviews For Vibrating Urethral Sound

Threads on Fetlife relating to vibrating sounds:

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Ms160
S(A)X
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Chemical play (the gift that keeps on giving)

Posted by Mistress160 on Sunday Mar 13, 2011 Under Blood Play, CBT

This post is about Edgeplay

Please don’t read it if you are not
interested in learning about:
urethral play
urethral sounds
needle play

blood play
medical play

For some time now we’ve wanted to further explore urethral torture / CBT sensation play via chemical play. It has long been a fantasy of sol’s and mine. I always liked it’s potential, and was recently re-inspired by this great description on a Tribes thread on BDSM techniques:
“I love things that slowly heat and add to the intense buildup of heat via pain!”

Oh, yes….

Chemical play according to Wiki is “the use of balms and ointments such as Bengay, Icy Hot, Biofreeze, etc” (here in Australia we use Dencorub) to create sensations on a submissive’s body during a BDSM scene. But it’s more than that. This kind of sensation play can utilize a wide range of intense preparations / mild irritants, everything from menthol to toothpaste to wintergreen oil. We are also interested in using spices like cinnamon, eucalyptus, peppermint, chili peppers and ginger – spice play :). You can use these materials fresh or you can use condiments (including essential oils) made from them.

Because this type of play interacts with other sorts of play – and because chemical play often gets called different things – we are going to be touching on other topics such as Food Play, Spice play, Irritant play, Abrasion play, etc.

There’s not much written about chemical play. There’s not even a chemical play group on Fetlife! (actually there is: Spices, oils, roots and balms for sadism or sensual intensification. Took a bit to find, of course they couldn’t just call it “chemical play”! It’s well worth joining). I’ll keep researching and trying to find material but so far there’s just one organization doing workshops, one or two articles online, a couple of blog posts and some threads on various fetish / kink / gay forums etc. Oh, and LOTS of YouTube videos of vanilla idiots rolling in agony after putting various products on their balls.

So I thought I’d turn a post about a rather good scene into a sort of BDSM For Beginners post, to try and collate a bit of the info that’s otherwise hard to track down. Also, because you need to take care with this kind of play. One of the chemical play blog posts I mentioned (Vince of Obedience Realized) has some great ideas and is definitely worth a read, but I disagree with one small part of his comment that:

“Chemical play is an extremely easy thing to add to play by a Dominant. It takes no skill, and is very effective”.

I know what Vince means here …. chemical play is not exactly Florentine flogging or needle play. But. If you are ever to move beyond using the smallest amounts possible, it DOES take skill. Or you will cause your sub agony well outside their limits. You need to familiarize yourself with the preparations and irritants you plan to use, and you need to spend time testing how those agents and irritants react on your sub. Putting all this info together into a scene takes skill.

Chemical play is usually regarded as edgeplay. However you can make this kind of play as light and sensuous, or as edgy and intense, as you like. It all depends on what you plan to use, and how you plan to use it. In our case, because sol is a masochist and really enjoys this kind of thing, we can push the envelope a bit – with care we can create sensations not just on his body but slightly inside his body, in particular in relation to urethral torture.

One thing it’s very important to stress with this type of play is that you not only need to pre test what you plan to use, you need to be aware that these types of irritants often take a while to build up their intensity … and equally take a while to stop having their effect. In some cases you can neutralize the sensation, but in others you have to cope with it until it fades naturally.

As ausboy wrote on a Milovana forum thread “It burns and burns and there is no way to take it off you just gonna deal with the pain until it goes away“. But dark was absolutely correct when he responded “I think that is the turn on for most who use it. They give up the control about the pain and have to take it”.

This touches on the mindset you need to reach for, during the scene. The extended intensity will also impact on your scene’s timing and construction. You may have finished playing and packed up and be ready to leave, while your sub is still in the zone dark describes! As Vince oh so accurately notes in his Chemical Play post:

“Chemical Play leaves a little gift that keeps on giving after the session is over”

And that is half the fun :).

This BDSM For Beginners series style post is set out in the following sections:

  1. What we used
  2. The scene
  3. What we learned and want to share with you
  4. More about neutralizers
  5. Will there be a next time?
  6. What we’ll do next time

Like most BDSM For Beginners posts, this one is long. So treat it like workshop notes – read the hot scene in the middle and bookmark the rest for later, when you need more info for your own scenes.

WHAT WE USED

Having fantasized about chemical play for a while, sol shared with me some interesting ideas regarding food stuffs, and in particular various forms of chili pepper and hot sauces. When the opportunity of an afternoon’s play with MzAntonina arose over Mardi Gras weekend in Sydney, we arrived laden with goodies:


And no, they weren’t to eat for lunch! The foodstuffs included:

  • fresh lemon
  • fresh ginger
  • three types of fresh chili, including locally grown jalapino and habaneros
  • wasabi (Japanese horseradish)
  • mild green Tabasco
  • red Tabasco
  • Mexican El Yucateco XXX chili sauce (picante habanero)
  • Mexican Cholula hot sauce arbol and piquin
  • Japanese La Yu chili oil
  • The Chilli Factory, Sydney’s Turbo Supercharge (Extremely Hot Habanero Paste)

The only non food item was a tube of extra strength Dencorub. Sol had used it before on his cock and found it very painful. I’d tried using Tiger Balm on sol without much success some years before, so something stronger was obviously needed….

We had done some research into how to neutralize sensations if things got too much for sol. Keeping in mind milk and yoghurt often work well to alleviate chili based irritants (something about certain proteins soothing and reducing stinging and burning sensations) we brought with us fresh plain yoghurt.

Products like Dencorub, Capsaicin and Bengay are pain-relief analgesic formulations used to relieve muscle aches and pain due to arthritis and strain. Bengay’s main active ingredients are menthol and methyl salicylate. Dencorub’s Extra Strength Heat Gel contains:

“26% methyl salicylate, which makes it a concentrated hot formula that gives hours of relief from pain resulting from sprains, strains, painful joints, muscular aches and pains, as well as Arthritis, Rheumatism, Lumbago and Fibrositis”

What’s happens when you apply these products is the menthol acts as a topical analgesic and provides the cool feeling and the methyl salicylate provides the heating by dilating the capillaries in the affected area, which increases blood flow to that area. When you apply them to the genitals – keeping in mind Hardy Haberman’s advice in Family Jewels (p.51) to not “use any of these compounds – Tiger Balm, Ben Gay, Icy Hot, or any other – as lube, within the urethra or rectum or on any mucous membranes” - they produce an intense burning sensation which some people may actually find pleasurable, and in some people may actually increase the duration of an erection. It’s the cooling effect of the menthol that is the last to wear off.

We had several of the nastiest types of chili covered in our food range. Wiki says :

“There are five major species of Capsicum cultivars, and appear in many varieties. The hotness of the fruit is indicated in the Scoville scale, which ranges from no heat at zero to pure capsaicin at 16,000,00:
  1. Capsicum annuum, which includes bell peppers, cayenne, paprika, and jalapeños
  2. Capsicum baccatum, which includes the ají pepper
  3. Capsicum chinense, which includes habaneros
  4. Capsicum frutescens, which includes tabasco
  5. Capsicum pubescens, which includes rocoto.

The heat level of chilis is determined on the Scoville scale. Here’s wiki again:

“The Scoville scale is a measurement of the spicy heat (or piquance) of a chili pepper. The number of Scoville heat units (SHU)indicates the amount of capsaicin present. Capsaicin is a chemical compound that stimulates chemoreceptor nerve endings in the skin, especially the mucous membranes

“a sweet pepper or a bell pepper, containing no capsaicin at all, has a Scoville rating of zero, meaning no heat detectable. The hottest chilis, such as habaneros and nagas, have a rating of 200,000 or more, indicating that their extract must be diluted over 200,000 times before the capsaicin presence is undetectable”

In our sample to try today we had:

  • Jalapeño ( 2,500-10,000 Scoville Units)
  • Piquin (30,000-50,000 Scoville Units)
    Tabasco (30,000-50,000 SR) is native to Mexico but is now grown in large amounts in Louisiana by McIlhenny Company for the sauce of the same name
  • Thai 75,000 – 150,000 Thin fruit with a pointed tip. Often used in the cuisines of Southeast Asia, especially (as the name implies) Thailand.
  • Habanero (80-300,000+ Scoville Units). The latter featured in the El Yucateco EXXXtra Picante (more than 11,000 Scoville units). According to the El Yucateco website, the recipe is fashioned after Mayan tradition. It’s also called Kutbil-Ik, which means “crushed chili” in Mayan.

This was going to be fun…

Despite how intense this sounds, it was important to keep in mind that the capsaicin in a habaneros was miniscule compared to the strength of pain-relief analgesic formulations. They needed to be utilized with care.

THE SCENE

Please note that a longer, more graphic version
of this scene appears on my private Edgeplay blog.
Drop me a line if you’d like access.

MzAntonina had greatly enjoyed our last scene - which had concluded with some q tip play using isopropyl alcohol – and was delighted to play again. Sol said after that scene:

“it hurt like fuck :) :) :) :).

“It was bright loud burny stingy pain. I’m not surprised I made a lot of noise. But one of the best things was the reaction from Mistress and MzAntonina: “gee that really seemed to hurt, let’s do it again!”

“I’m definitely looking forward to doing it again plus with other substances”

We were certainly happy to explore further. We negotiated a scene where sol’s genitals would first experience some needle play and sounding as preparation for sensation play with various hot condiments and fresh spices.

This was what we called a testing session. Damage to delicate internal linings was to be kept minimal, but the idea was to explore the potency / strength of various irritants (ginger / chili / etc) within sol’s mucous membranes, to provide information that would be useful for future play.

We also wanted to see how long certain products took to build and fade, in terms of sensation, and try out various neutralizers for effectiveness. As it was sol, we might push our explorations a little further, keeping in mind Brian’s comment on Tribe that:

“Even after sessions that were excruciating for those few minutes, I have had no adverse reactions, just some tenderness and pinkness but no harm. :)”

I directed sol to make several urethral size ginger plugs and chili strips. He also left several larger pieces for us to use as we desired. You can see them on the plate below. The white bowl contains just squeezed lemon juice:


We also had on hand the yoghurt, tissues and damp face towels as neutralizers. Lemon juice has also proved effective, although we had that for a different reason…

We set a timer, because MzAntonina and I do tend to get distracted, time wise and we had a deadline of about an hour or so, to allow time for sol and I to prepare for the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade that night.

We placed a black rubber sheet on MzAntonina’s massage table, told sol to strip and tied him to the table with black rope:


I prefer using rope with carabinars for a restraint system with a quick exit, however I hadn’t brought them, so MzAntonia brought out black rope from her play box and tied it beautifully.

We tied his hands behind his head and then gagged him:


He said later that he “liked the gag”, it gave him:

“something to think about … it was uncomfortable enough that you had to focus to keep things together”.

Restrained in this manner, mouth gagged, how was sol to communicate a problem or safeword? We use a mix of hand signals (his hands were tied above his head but we could still see them) and of course – as you can see in the photo above – his facial gestures and noises can still indicate concerns.

Out came our traveling needle play kit and MzAntonina’s sharps container:


We wanted to start with needles because we thought once they were removed, the puncture wounds might respond in interesting ways to the various irritants we planned to introduce. Well, that’s our story and we are sticking to it. The fact we also really enjoy putting needles into male genitals has nothing to do with it….

We snapped on some of MzAntonina’s great pink latex gloves. I’d like to stress here: NEVER ever play with these kind of irritants without gloves!

We swabbed down sol’s shaft and started our row of needles about half way along, working towards the (more sensitive) top:


We started with two 25 gauge needles and then two 23 gauge. We’d both been wanting to try out the various styles of needle cap and this provided an excellent opportunity. First we capped our needles with cork, then silicone (yellow) and rubber (black):


We found cork the easiest to use, although of course they are single use so more expensive in the long run. We then placed a few needles under sol’s scrotum. Sol said later he found the scrotum needles “slightly sharper than on the shaft but not as intense as the head”:


We wanted to insert some needles in his foreskin and shaft, but remembered the access problems we encountered last time. To avoid these we tied a black cord through his PA ring and tied it to his chest rope:


This made his foreskin easy to pierce:


We admired our work for a bit, then dribbled fresh lemon juice over the needles in his shaft:


This caused a mild response. We then removed the needles in the shaft, allowing the lemon juice to drip into the holes:


A much better response! To access the head of his cock we undid the cord and tied it to his thigh rope restraints, causing his cock to bend back like this:


We each inserted a needle each:


Sol reacted intensely as he always. You might recall sol said this, the first time I put a needle through the head of his cock:

“the sensation of the needles through the head is hard to describe …

“the whole end of the cock is loaded with nerve endings, it’s not like skin of the shaft where you just have a pin prick at entry and exit. The skin at both ends of the head needle seems to be loaded with nerve endings. It feels like you are pushing the needle through a thick layer of nerve endings and everything tingles as it goes through this thick layer of sensation…

“yes it hurts (like penetrating skin) but it also tingles and zaps almost like an electric shock … every needle also feels different, it’s like all the different nerve endings there create different intensities, a mm to each side would create a different effect…”

As I wrote on the same post:

“It was certainly intense for sol … as for me, I nearly came, just doing it! I punched one hand up in the air in a victory salute … yay!!! I’d done it!!! … and truly, I nearly came”

This time was just as good :). But this was just the “foreplay” of the scene. Now it was time to get out S(A)X’s incredibly useful urethral sound and enlarge the urethra…

Both MzAntonina and I really adore sounding so I’m afraid I have no photos of our fucking sol’s urethra. Here’s one from our last scene:


Sol said after that scene:

“it went in all the way …. I couldn’t feel it at the far end, like they say in the books it’s the first five or six cm of the urethra that has most sensation … but the feeling of fullness with the full diameter of the sound I almost felt like I was coming … the only other time you get that same sensation is when you are coming”

In this particular scene we also took the sound down the whole way, so we could enjoy fucking sol with it. However our main focus for the day was to widen the first inch or so, so we could insert various agents with ease.

While MzAntonina had a turn I removed the needle play kit from between sol’s legs and brought the condiment plate closer:


You can see to the left of that photo the lube we were using and the tiny Asian cotton baby q tips I purchase for CBT. These are so much more useful and more intrusive than the usual size in Western supermarkets.

After a few minutes of fucking, sol’s urethra was nicely stretched. While MzAntonina held his cock steady I picked up the first q tip for the day and examined the contents of the plate. Choices … choices….

As I mentioned earlier our last scene with MzAntonina had concluded with some q tip play using isopropyl alcohol, so we knew sol could tolerate urethral insertions with irritants. But the whole point of this scene was to work up to things slowly and obtain as much info as we could about sol’s responses to things. Refusing the urge to go straight to the fresh chilis, I looked at the milder irritants. I’d read that Tabasco sauce was potentially:

Very intense on labia or rectally on a butt plug. One bottom reports using a 1:1 dilution for ‘pleasure’ scenes and full strength for punishment scenes. Starts near full intensity and wears off over time or washing”

One man on Fet described a mixture of Tabasco and cinnamon as feeling “like hydrochloric acid was being poured into the tip of my penis”.

Could be fun, then. I dipped my q tip in the mildest material on the plate: green Tabasco. I coated both sides of the q tip. With MzAntonina holding sol’s cock for me, I dabbed the inside of sol’s urethra with the tip…

No reaction. Okay, then … I gently circled the the inside of sol’s urethra with the tip… Damn, only a slight reaction. So I picked up a clean q tip and dipped it in red Tabasco. Definitely a stronger reaction this time, but still not a major one.

After to talking to sol later I think these condiments might have worked better if I had taken a moment to wipe away from the urethra any lube that remained from sounding. I could then use a clean dry q tip to abrade the top and inside edge of the urethra a little. I think any substances placed on q tips and inserted after that abrasion would “take” better. vampyrepain confirms this:

“The main reason that [inserting a q tip] is painful is because the fibers of the q-tip scratch your mucus membranes. Urine is very basic which makes it irritate the scratches as well as kill bacteria as it passes over your scratched urethra. Using irritants such as tabasco or alcohol on the q-tip just further the irritation, but they also lubricate so there isn’t as much scratching. For a really awful punishment that won’t be soon forgoten, dedicate a little time and first insert a dry q-tip to cause the scratches, the insert an alcohol or lemon juice soaked q-tip to cause inflammation, swelling, and irritation, then end with the tabasco soaked q-tip that will allow more of the burning sensation to penitrate into the scratched, inflammed, and sensatized tissues”

Moving along with our experiments, we next inserted a plug of fresh ginger:


Sol’s urethra was slippery with pre come and lube from the sound, so the ginger plug went in easily:


He was enjoying these mild sensations too much so we decided to up the ante a bit. Well, okay, more than just a bit…

MzAntonina scooped up a little Dencorub with a finger tip, then rubbed it over his balls:


The response was quite dramatic. Obviously the product’s blurb is right when it stated “the clear gel formulation allows for faster penetration and relief” LOL.

You might like to check out YouTube for videos of men putting Bengay and similar products on their balls. There are lots of videos by drunk under graduates. However the results are the same: lots of yowling, lots of doubling over and groaning and lots of running away to have a shower.

None of these options were available to sol, who was bound and gagged and completely at our mercy. We watched with great interest as his balls tightened and began deepening in color until they were almost dark red.

Sol was almost biting through the gag as each wave of strong sensation built and receded. We had to tell him to be quiet, which really turns him on as well as helps him focus. At one point he called yellow and begged us to turn off the over head fan. At the time I thought he was simply cold (and was rather amazed he was aware of being cold with all the other stuff going on). Later he told me the soft cool breeze from the fan was excruciating on his balls. Next time the fan … or gentle blowing from our lips … will become part of the scene!

While sol rode waves of agony, MzAntonina and I removed the final two needles from sol’s cock head. I had repeated out loud alexpierce’s reminder to be prepared for blood when removing needles from the cock head … and it was lucky I did this because we experienced the largest bleed so far. It looked amazing, pooling on the rubber sheet underneath sol:


I grabbed the camera while MzAntonina, who greatly enjoys blood play of all kinds, had a wonderful time painting sol’s cock red:


You can see more photos and MzAntonina’s final “art work” on my Edgeplay blog.

Of course the fresh, flowing blood acted as yet another irritant on sol’s poor Dencorub covered balls, and added to his agony. MzAntonina and I exchanged looks … should we stop? I quickly dipped my bloody gloved finger tips into the cool yoghurt we had near by and applied the yoghurt to sol’s balls.

He yowled very loudly through the gag.

Oops. A slight Dominant cock up there, so to speak. Yoghurt only helps with chili, not Dencorub. I’d just made things worse … or from sol’s masochistic point of view, better! He’d just had to ride out the pain. I was keeping in mind Brian’s comment that “even after sessions that were excruciating for those few minutes, I have had no adverse reactions, just some tenderness and pinkness but no harm. :) “. And this proved the case with sol.

We cleaned up the blood and yoghurt, noting that the Dencorub was still affecting sol’s ball tightness and color as well as his pain threshold. To keep him from getting …er … bored, we decided it was time to insert those fresh chilis.

We began with a tiny strip of mild green chili:


We fucked his urethra with it, and then let it sit for a while…

No response. Sol later said “first tip didn’t do anything” . But then we replaced it with a red chili sliver:


This was much more successful, in terms of response. We tried in and out fucking motions, also just letting it sit for a while. However the most successful position was to hold it right in and bring the foreskin up over it:


This resulted in some serious noises. Sol later described it as:

“almost off the scale … that last one got well into the 9 points something out of 10″

Scott Adams’ (who created Dilbert) would probably agree. He had a rather fiendish encounter with jalapeños. I don’t usually quote vanilla blogs (as their authors may not like appearing on an adult content blog) but Scott’s description is just so good I hoped he wouldn’t mind my sharing it. This quote picks up after he’s ignored advice to use gloves and chopped jalapeños by hand:

“A few minutes passed, and I felt a tingle in my left hand – the one that directly handled the peppers. The tingle turned into a warm sensation, and the warmth turned into…well, this will take some explaining.

“Imagine turning a broom upside down, so the pointy bristles are facing up. You take your hand, palm facing down, and bounce it on the pointy bristles. Can you imagine how uncomfortable that feels on your hand? Okay, good.

“Now imagine that a giant troll sees you playing with the broom. He snatches it out of your hand, chews the handle into a point and shoves it so far up your ass that you can taste it. Then he uses you like a huge flyswatter to kill a nest of porcupines that are living in his salt mine. My hand hurt like that.

“It felt as if my hand was literally on fire. It was one of the most intense pains of my life”

Sol later said he felt the same. Here’s another online description, this time from boundecstasy:

“i think she covered my cock in [a muscle cream called “deep heat” ]. That was shear agony… it was like dipping my cock into acid, it was stinging and burning and it was like it was on fire. I was heavily bound so could barely move. The best relief here was when she masturbated me … brought me near orgasm. This allowed me to concentrate on the orgasm and the pain subsided. However once i climaxed, it was a race to undo the restraints and a dash to the bath so i could put cool water over it to cool things down … this made it burn worse!”
In fact we’d removed the chili and begun to undo sol’s restraints believing he might need a similar dash to the bathroom. However he ferverantly told us to leave him tied.

His concerns over the restraints had broken his headspace, and he tossed back and forwards, groaning through the gag loudly. I took him by the shoulders and called his name to focus him and directed him to be quiet. MzAntonina helped from the other side of the massage table, holding his head and reminding him to breathe … breathe … breathe. Soon he slipped back under again.

Our alarm had gone off some time before, and we were short of time, but there was nothing we could do but pack up quietly and let sol ride the waves of sensation. After about half an hour they were reduced enough that he was happy to have the restraints removed. We’d already removed the gag.

AFTERCARE:

Interestingly, after such intense play, sol required minimal aftercare. We left it long enough so that by the time he had a shower – about half an hour after play – his genitals were not too painful. And by the next day he only had a small bruise on the head of his cock to show for all his adventures:

As you can see his shaft is clear of marks. Last time we did this I posted:

“In terms of all the internal play, there was some redness / soreness at the tip of the urethra immediately after play but this quickly disappeared. Sol was a tad nervous peeing for the first time after this scene:
“it hurt like hell when I finally did … my body actually refused for a couple of minutes, anticipating the pain …. and there was burning for about two days after. Still a little sensitivity in the area …

“I feel more well used than pain …”

Which is a perfect way to feel at the end :)

I think sol felt the same this time. He said there was a little soreness around the urethra when peeing, but there was no redness or sore spots visible.

So, all round, a successful scene that had all three participants buzzing for days!

WHAT WE LEARNED
AND WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU

What we learned from this “test session”:

  • Chemical play is perhaps not the best scene for when you have time constraints!
  • Always wear gloves and have a few spare pairs on hand
  • Never forget that chemical play can be an extremely painful form of play … sol later said “it was the most severe play we’ve done” and I agree. I actually noted to MzAntonina during the scene that sol’s responses were the most extreme I’d seen. But on the other hand from his point of view he really enjoyed the scene and “never got to the point of wanting the scene to stop”.
  • Make sure your play partner is not allergic to anything you plan to use. Discuss this in pre-scene negotiations, and for any products they are not sure of, do “test patches” on less sensitive areas of skin
  • Different people react differently to the same concentration of something, so testing something on yourself isn’t necessarily going to tell you how it will feel for someone else. Have a “test” session before you actually play. Also, check out YouTube’s videos of men putting Bengay and similar products on their balls to get a general idea of severity og sensation / response times.
  • When you plan your scene, you need to take into account those sensation response times. Also, be careful how many substances you apply … sensation may just be starting to build when you decide it’s not working and dollop on something else *grin*.Here’s a “word of warning from someone with first hand experience”:
    “Irritants (like those I have been talking about) do not act/react immediately. A friend put capcaisin on herself. After a minute or so, she didn’t feel anything so she doubled the amount applied. A few minutes later (having still felt no effect) she redoubled the amount applied. And then she started feeling it, and she couldn’t find a way to neutralize it. She found out, to her chagrin, how much capcaisin is required to cause first and second degree burns to very tender body parts.”

  • I highly recommend your sub’s genitals are shaved before such a scene. It provides a much cleaner canvas to work on!
  • Inserting things into the urethra is a contentious topic. Some kinksters are completely against the idea, and have valid reasons. However if urethral play is something you and your sub want to explore, then keep this advice – which I totally agree with – by MissPlease in mind:

    “I’m of the belief that putting substances in your urethra could cause some damage. I like to err on the safe side especialy when it involves genitalia (even if I do ball busting). When it comes to the urethra or anything internal, I’m very careful. The inside of the urethra is very delicate and can be damaged easily. Inserting oils and ointments might cause some caustic burns. Even with sounds we are warned that whatever is inserted should be sterile and smooth. Sure, a certain amount of bdsm is experimental, but I do try to seek out experienced and educated/informed sources before trying stuff if possible”

  • We started with a fairly intense scene because sol is a severe masochist. What if you want to try chemical play at a milder sensation level? Why not start with toothpaste. I’ve read that it provides a “mild burning sensation when used anally, fairly popular and the most often used in regular scenes, when substances are used. Unless you think you’re very sensitive, I’d use full strength.” The brands Crest and Closeup are recommended. subfemmepet notes that:
    “toothpaste applied to the clit is yummy: :):it varies in its intensity..dies down, comes alive again, ….cleanest clit in town ! minty fresh:t :): similar effect on anus..if you lack a clit, lol”

  • Tiger Balm doesn’t work for sol, which means it may work for those seeking slightly milder sensations (although having said that everyone responds differently) and also seems a popular product to use of female subs as well as males. Druid found it “invigorating without being excruciating. Even when applied to the helmet and eye it is challenging but tolerable”
  • Fresh ginger is also a great mild to intermediate irritant. We’ve had fun with it – you can use ginger juice, make ginger dildos etc . If you’ve not explored figging in the past, have a read of this BDSM For Beginners post. There is also a Figging group on Fet :)
  • Needle play worked well as abrasive “foreplay” for our chemical play scene … the punctures in his skin after the needles were removed responded extremely well to the application of irritants. If you are into needle play we definitely recommend doing this first
  • Combining other types of abrasion play (stimulating the surface of the body with abrasive materials such as rough silk, coarse cloth, leather, sandpaper, brushes, fingernails …. even twigs, if you include birching) with chemical play has excellent results. Abrasion is more effective on an area of skin which has already been made tender so you could start with a spanking or nipple torture (I’ve been collecting handmade wooden kitchen / cleaning brushes for a while … they are excellent at abrading nipples) and move on abrasion play of various types, then finish up with chemical play.
  • You could also utilize other natural materials like botanicals (for one example, nettles)
  • Before inserting a little bit of something into the urethra with a q tip, you might like to take a moment to wipe any lube from the area (if you’ve been sounding) and then use a clean dry q tip to abrade the area a little. You’ll find the substance you then insert will “take” better
  • How about considering chemical play for LDR and web cam play? It makes an excellent training tool. Here’s Vince from Obedience Realized, who I quoted at the very beginning of this post:
    “I enjoy using it as a training device. I prefer to build a submissive’s pain tolerance before they meet me for play again. Right now, boy Jake is preparing to visit and about a month. Once a day, I order boy Jake to cover [his] perineum, the balls, and the shaft of[his] cock with the capsaicin. The intense pain and burning reminds him of what is coming soon and of his service to me. This chemical has a longer staying power and makes a definite impression. Once a submissive has been exposed to it, just mentioning it can change a behavior.

MORE ON NEUTRALIZERS

Here’s the basic thing to remember:

“Water soluble irritants respond to safewords; they wash off.

“Oil-based irritants do not respond to safewords; they do not wash off easily.”

It’s worth further researching other ways to neutralize the sensations, just in case the “waves” prove too severe for your sub.

Vanillas who use these products often find they feel too strong, and there are various places online where you can read their solutions. However you are going to find as I did that internet advice can be varied and contradictory. Scott Adams found this, too:

“With my good hand, I groped for the iPad and searched for home remedies. For every report of a treatment that worked, three people reported that it didn’t. I tried ice. I tried milk. I tried alcohol (internal and external). I tried sour cream. I tried ketchup. Each of those things worked for as long as it kept my hand cold, but as soon as my hand reached room temperature, the burn returned. And according to my fellow idiots on the Internet who had made the same mistake, the burn could last most of the night

“I made it through dinner with my hand submerged in a bowl of milk. By now, two hours had passed and the level of pain hadn’t subsided one iota.”

I do recommend reading the rest of his story, it’s a good one (and includes what happened when he needed a pee). Eventually:

“Steve’s wife, Sandy, was nice enough to get some Lanacane from their house. After I applied the Lanacane, the pain stopped. I can’t say for sure that the Lanacane was the reason the pain stopped…”

Certainly add Lanacane to the list of potential neutralizers, along with other anesthetics like Solarcaine, Xylocaine and Ambesol. These can be used after a scene to relieve pain, but some kinksters also use them before and during scenes.

I’m going to include some of the varied advice I found online below. I can’t at the point confirm these suggestions, but at least if some of the various solutions are listed in one spot in this blog post of mine, you know you have a reference point where you can head, if you hit trouble in your own play.

For muscle creams:

Ehow suggests:

  1. Blot off any excess Bengay with the facial tissue, toilet paper, or paper towels. Do not rub the affected area, because this could make the Bengay absorb even more into your skin.
  2. Saturate a cotton ball in olive oil.
  3. Blot the affected area with the saturated cotton ball. Repeat until the burning sensation lessens. Wash the affected area with soap and cool water to remove the olive oil. Use cool water because warm water will open your pores, allowing more Bengay to penetrate the skin.
  4. Pat the skin with the towel to dry. Do not rub the towel against the skin.
Ehow UK offers a different version:

  1. Avoid water when trying to remove Bengay and other analgesic products from skin. Bengay is not soluble, meaning water will only spread the ointment around, worsening the burning sensation.
  2. Pour equal parts of lemon juice and antibacterial soap into a spray bottle and mix thoroughly.
  3. Spray the lemon juice-soap mixture on the affected area and scrub thoroughly.
  4. Blot dry with a damp cloth.
  5. Wash the area to remove any lingering Bengay formula or soap.

A mother who had problems with her child wrote this:

WHAT TO DO: Remove any excess ointment with a kleenex. Do not rub it in. Douse a cotton ball in olive oil and use that to cleanse the affected area gently. Then wash it off with water. Pat the skin dry.

Kinksters who know their stuff, like Midori (in Wild Side Sex: The Book of Kink p.107) suggest:

  1. only using the creams externally
  2. start with a small amount
  3. make sure you have witch hazel will cut oil based material
  4. wet towel to remove it
  5. aloe vera will sooth

Mistress Matisse recommends milk.

Still need help?! Here’s one kinkster’s emergency “Oh God help me!” routine:

“I’ve had some very intense sessions before, and I’ve ran screaming to the tub many times. When that happens, this is my emergency “Oh God help me!” routine:

“penis under bath tub tap with ice cold water flooding it. This will make it bearable instantly. Then, repeated washing and rinsing with dish soap. Then apply vegetable oil and wash and rinse more as needed. Then dunk little jiggling pink pee pee in cold milk…finish with some vegetable oil, collapse on the floor and catch your breath!!

“(And don’t even think about doing that again for at least a year!)”

WILL THERE BE A “NEXT TIME”?

Absolutely. While we pushed sol a long way with this chemical play scene, he was delighted to be pushed and later confirmed he:

“never got to the point of wanting the scene to stop”.

Which means we can keep on with our chemical play explorations :)

WHAT MIGHT BE TRY NEXT TIME?

There are so many things we want to explore, with chemical play. Here are a few that come to mind:

  • We had several products on the tray and in the kitchen that we didn’t try during this scene, so we have those to look forward to :)
  • Things others have tried / discussed that we might explore: eucalyptus oil, Vicks Vaporub (“Start with small dabs. The effect peaks quickly and fades in about 15 minutes. Very hard to remove”), radishes, wintergreen oil, menthol, any form of camphor etc
  • Cinnamon oil I now have, and want to try. Midori recommended it to me, for CBT for masochists. Mistress Matisse has written a good article on how to use it. I’ve also read that it’s best “used on nipples (full strength), it provides a mild burning sensation and a nice odor:). Used on the labia, it provides a burning sensation which at full strength is very intense. (My play partner dashed for the bathroom to wash it off, others have found it just bearable and very intense). I usually apply it with a q-tip. This is strong stuff most. Be very careful! I’d recommend a 20:1 dilution to start.” This story echos that caution: cinnamon oil burned off a layer of skin in a rather sensitive area because we didn’t wash it off quickly enough, that wasn’t much fun”
  • Clove oil is also recommended by hardcore players. I recently used it very effectively to help toothache. It’s going to take a while before I can stop associating it’s smell with non consensual tooth pain!
  • For American readers: Mistress Matisse recommends Listerine breath strips and Altoid mints for both boy bits and girls bits. She especially recommends using the red cinnamon ones, with flames on the box. In a podcast she describes using inserting them into the urethra of one man (who usually takes a lot of pain), who almost levitated. Another person suggests breath mints like Minty Fresh (“I get a breath mint and put it on the tip of my dick. When it is on there for at least two minutes I always get a one-minute orgasm and it feels great.”)

  • Capsaicin is definitely worth more research and exploration on it’s own. I’ve been growing several different types of chili here at home, and have found this website and another local one the Hippy Seeds Company where I can purchase even the hottest chili’s seeds. I highly recommend you check out their You Tube chili testing videos to see how hot some chilis can be, and how the body reacts to them.
  • I’d also like to explore more hot sauces. For example, I found two products called “Pleasure and pain” with whip wielding Dommes on their labels. One comes from the US:


  • The other is from Australia. They look like the kind of items it would be fun to show sol … just before I poured them down somewhere lethal!
  • I’d also like to try some of these products – and also Dencorub – on other body parts. Perhaps around sol’s anus. Fetish Info Exchange also suggests some interesting suppositories: “fresh ground spices can produce irritations that range from heat to intense itching. Using these with glycerine suppositories can be even more intense.” I thought I’d also spend some time reading more about Miss Nancy’s punishment suppositories.
  • We had sol bound and gagged lying down because that was the best position at Mz’s place. It also provided excellent access to his genitals when two dominants were working on him. However once we get more of a feel for how he responds to these various items I want to try incorporating chemical play into other forms of play.
  • Applied after a spanking or birching (my favorite form of abrasion play) for example. The wounds, pricks and abrasions left by the twigs would provide a perfect canvas to apply irritants. I could also use our untreated hemp rope to abrade the skin a little in private spots before the application of other things.
  • Even another favorite game of mine, sub hunting, would work – there’s a real potential for using certain products that result in a strong scent after ingestion.

I hope this post has been useful. A final word: be careful … and have fun!

REFERENCES AND ONLINE RESOURCES:

Scott Adams The Night I Learned To Follow Directions
Ms160’s BDSM For Beginners series – the fine art of figging

Brian on Tribe – BDSM Techniques “Oh God help me!”
Chili Seed Bank
Femdom Resources – post on Listerine cartoon by annmo night
Figging.com – Ginger, wasabi, peppermint, lemons
Food play
Mistress Ariachne’s BDSM Workshop – Chemical play scenes
Mistress Matisse – Pour Some Sugar On Me

Multics – My BDSM – Irritants
Multics – Irritants info folder
OTKgirl – Miss Nancy’s punishment suppositories
Raven Shadowbourne – Types of play 4: ointments, oils and jellies
Vince of Obedience Realized – Abrasion Play
Vince of Obedience Realized – Chemical Play
Wiki – List of capsicum cultivars
Wiki – Scoville scale

PODCASTS:
Mistresse Matisse – Altoids mints and Listerine Breath Strips podcast

FORUMS:
Collar6 – Chemical play thread
Fetish Information Exchange – Irritants thread
Fetish Information Exchange – Playing with fire thread
Get Dare – Q tip pain thread
Informed Consent – Figging
Kink.com – Extra Strength Bengay, Icy Hot, Tiger Balm etc thread
Literotica – Chemical play thread

Literotica – Post anal play thread
Milovana – Icy Hot? thread
My Masturbation – Menthol thread
Orgasm Denial – Icy Hot on female parts? thread
Professional Domination – Deep heat on male genitals thread
SMPlace – Icy Hot thread
Tribes – New to BDSM – Info on scents, oils and such
Tribes – Mediplay – urethral sound thread

FETLIFE:
Cock and ball torture
Figging
Spices, oils, roots and balms for sadism or sensual intensification
Stinging nettles and botany play

Interesting threads:

YOUTUBE:
Bengay on balls search results (enjoy!)

Hippy Seeds CompanyYou Tube chili testing videos

BOOKS:
Hardy Haberman Family Jewels

Midori Wild Side Sex: The Book of Kink

WORKSHOPS
EdukinkSome like it hot

Thank you:
MzAntonina and MacTheKnife
for a glorious day

Scott Adams
for sharing his jalapino experience

Vince – Obedience Realized
for inspiring the title of this post

Photos:
Ms160

“Pleasure and pain” bottles
from Chili Seed Bank
and
Hot Sauce.com

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Chemical play (the gift that keeps on giving)

Posted by Mistress160 on Sunday Mar 13, 2011 Under Blood Play, CBT
This post is about EdgeplayPlease don’t read it if you are notinterested in learning about:urethral playurethral soundsneedle playblood playmedical play
For some time now we’ve wanted to further explore urethral torture / CBT sensation play via chemical play. It has long been a fantasy of sol’s and mine. I always liked it’s potential, and was recently re-inspired by this great description on a Tribes thread on BDSM techniques:
“I love things that slowly heat and add to the intense buildup of heat via pain!”

Oh, yes….

Chemical play according to Wiki is “the use of balms and ointments such as Bengay, Icy Hot, Biofreeze, etc” (here in Australia we use Dencorub) to create sensations on a submissive’s body during a BDSM scene. But it’s more than that. This kind of sensation play can utilize a wide range of intense preparations / mild irritants, everything from menthol to toothpaste to wintergreen oil. We are also interested in using spices like cinnamon, eucalyptus, peppermint, chili peppers and ginger – spice play :). You can use these materials fresh or you can use condiments (including essential oils) made from them.Because this type of play interacts with other sorts of play – and because chemical play often gets called different things – we are going to be touching on other topics such as Food Play, Spice play, Irritant play, Abrasion play, etc.There’s not much written about chemical play. There’s not even a chemical play group on Fetlife! (actually there is: Spices, oils, roots and balms for sadism or sensual intensification. Took a bit to find, of course they couldn’t just call it “chemical play”! It’s well worth joining). I’ll keep researching and trying to find material but so far there’s just one organization doing workshops, one or two articles online, a couple of blog posts and some threads on various fetish / kink / gay forums etc. Oh, and LOTS of YouTube videos of vanilla idiots rolling in agony after putting various products on their balls.So I thought I’d turn a post about a rather good scene into a sort of BDSM For Beginners post, to try and collate a bit of the info that’s otherwise hard to track down. Also, because you need to take care with this kind of play. One of the chemical play blog posts I mentioned (Vince of Obedience Realized) has some great ideas and is definitely worth a read, but I disagree with one small part of his comment that:

“Chemical play is an extremely easy thing to add to play by a Dominant. It takes no skill, and is very effective”.

I know what Vince means here …. chemical play is not exactly Florentine flogging or needle play. But. If you are ever to move beyond using the smallest amounts possible, it DOES take skill. Or you will cause your sub agony well outside their limits. You need to familiarize yourself with the preparations and irritants you plan to use, and you need to spend time testing how those agents and irritants react on your sub. Putting all this info together into a scene takes skill.Chemical play is usually regarded as edgeplay. However you can make this kind of play as light and sensuous, or as edgy and intense, as you like. It all depends on what you plan to use, and how you plan to use it. In our case, because sol is a masochist and really enjoys this kind of thing, we can push the envelope a bit – with care we can create sensations not just on his body but slightly inside his body, in particular in relation to urethral torture.One thing it’s very important to stress with this type of play is that you not only need to pre test what you plan to use, you need to be aware that these types of irritants often take a while to build up their intensity … and equally take a while to stop having their effect. In some cases you can neutralize the sensation, but in others you have to cope with it until it fades naturally.As ausboy wrote on a Milovana forum thread “It burns and burns and there is no way to take it off you just gonna deal with the pain until it goes away“. But dark was absolutely correct when he responded “I think that is the turn on for most who use it. They give up the control about the pain and have to take it”.This touches on the mindset you need to reach for, during the scene. The extended intensity will also impact on your scene’s timing and construction. You may have finished playing and packed up and be ready to leave, while your sub is still in the zone dark describes! As Vince oh so accurately notes in his Chemical Play post:

“Chemical Play leaves a little gift that keeps on giving after the session is over”

And that is half the fun :).This BDSM For Beginners series style post is set out in the following sections:

  1. What we used
  2. The scene
  3. What we learned and want to share with you
  4. More about neutralizers
  5. Will there be a next time?
  6. What we’ll do next time

Like most BDSM For Beginners posts, this one is long. So treat it like workshop notes – read the hot scene in the middle and bookmark the rest for later, when you need more info for your own scenes.

WHAT WE USED

Having fantasized about chemical play for a while, sol shared with me some interesting ideas regarding food stuffs, and in particular various forms of chili pepper and hot sauces. When the opportunity of an afternoon’s play with MzAntonina arose over Mardi Gras weekend in Sydney, we arrived laden with goodies:And no, they weren’t to eat for lunch! The foodstuffs included:

  • fresh lemon
  • fresh ginger
  • three types of fresh chili, including locally grown jalapino and habaneros
  • wasabi (Japanese horseradish)
  • mild green Tabasco
  • red Tabasco
  • Mexican El Yucateco XXX chili sauce (picante habanero)
  • Mexican Cholula hot sauce arbol and piquin
  • Japanese La Yu chili oil
  • The Chilli Factory, Sydney’s Turbo Supercharge (Extremely Hot Habanero Paste)

The only non food item was a tube of extra strength Dencorub. Sol had used it before on his cock and found it very painful. I’d tried using Tiger Balm on sol without much success some years before, so something stronger was obviously needed….We had done some research into how to neutralize sensations if things got too much for sol. Keeping in mind milk and yoghurt often work well to alleviate chili based irritants (something about certain proteins soothing and reducing stinging and burning sensations) we brought with us fresh plain yoghurt.Products like Dencorub, Capsaicin and Bengay are pain-relief analgesic formulations used to relieve muscle aches and pain due to arthritis and strain. Bengay’s main active ingredients are menthol and methyl salicylate. Dencorub’s Extra Strength Heat Gel contains:

“26% methyl salicylate, which makes it a concentrated hot formula that gives hours of relief from pain resulting from sprains, strains, painful joints, muscular aches and pains, as well as Arthritis, Rheumatism, Lumbago and Fibrositis”

What’s happens when you apply these products is the menthol acts as a topical analgesic and provides the cool feeling and the methyl salicylate provides the heating by dilating the capillaries in the affected area, which increases blood flow to that area. When you apply them to the genitals – keeping in mind Hardy Haberman’s advice in Family Jewels (p.51) to not “use any of these compounds – Tiger Balm, Ben Gay, Icy Hot, or any other – as lube, within the urethra or rectum or on any mucous membranes” - they produce an intense burning sensation which some people may actually find pleasurable, and in some people may actually increase the duration of an erection. It’s the cooling effect of the menthol that is the last to wear off.We had several of the nastiest types of chili covered in our food range. Wiki says :

“There are five major species of Capsicum cultivars, and appear in many varieties. The hotness of the fruit is indicated in the Scoville scale, which ranges from no heat at zero to pure capsaicin at 16,000,00:
  1. Capsicum annuum, which includes bell peppers, cayenne, paprika, and jalapeños
  2. Capsicum baccatum, which includes the ají pepper
  3. Capsicum chinense, which includes habaneros
  4. Capsicum frutescens, which includes tabasco
  5. Capsicum pubescens, which includes rocoto.

The heat level of chilis is determined on the Scoville scale. Here’s wiki again:

“The Scoville scale is a measurement of the spicy heat (or piquance) of a chili pepper. The number of Scoville heat units (SHU)indicates the amount of capsaicin present. Capsaicin is a chemical compound that stimulates chemoreceptor nerve endings in the skin, especially the mucous membranes

“a sweet pepper or a bell pepper, containing no capsaicin at all, has a Scoville rating of zero, meaning no heat detectable. The hottest chilis, such as habaneros and nagas, have a rating of 200,000 or more, indicating that their extract must be diluted over 200,000 times before the capsaicin presence is undetectable”

In our sample to try today we had:

  • Jalapeño ( 2,500-10,000 Scoville Units)
  • Piquin (30,000-50,000 Scoville Units)Tabasco (30,000-50,000 SR) is native to Mexico but is now grown in large amounts in Louisiana by McIlhenny Company for the sauce of the same name
  • Thai 75,000 – 150,000 Thin fruit with a pointed tip. Often used in the cuisines of Southeast Asia, especially (as the name implies) Thailand.
  • Habanero (80-300,000+ Scoville Units). The latter featured in the El Yucateco EXXXtra Picante (more than 11,000 Scoville units). According to the El Yucateco website, the recipe is fashioned after Mayan tradition. It’s also called Kutbil-Ik, which means “crushed chili” in Mayan.

This was going to be fun…Despite how intense this sounds, it was important to keep in mind that the capsaicin in a habaneros was miniscule compared to the strength of pain-relief analgesic formulations. They needed to be utilized with care.

THE SCENE
Please note that a longer, more graphic versionof this scene appears on my private Edgeplay blog.Drop me a line if you’d like access.

MzAntonina had greatly enjoyed our last scene - which had concluded with some q tip play using isopropyl alcohol – and was delighted to play again. Sol said after that scene:

“it hurt like fuck :) :) :) :).”It was bright loud burny stingy pain. I’m not surprised I made a lot of noise. But one of the best things was the reaction from Mistress and MzAntonina: “gee that really seemed to hurt, let’s do it again!””I’m definitely looking forward to doing it again plus with other substances”

We were certainly happy to explore further. We negotiated a scene where sol’s genitals would first experience some needle play and sounding as preparation for sensation play with various hot condiments and fresh spices.This was what we called a testing session. Damage to delicate internal linings was to be kept minimal, but the idea was to explore the potency / strength of various irritants (ginger / chili / etc) within sol’s mucous membranes, to provide information that would be useful for future play.We also wanted to see how long certain products took to build and fade, in terms of sensation, and try out various neutralizers for effectiveness. As it was sol, we might push our explorations a little further, keeping in mind Brian’s comment on Tribe that:

“Even after sessions that were excruciating for those few minutes, I have had no adverse reactions, just some tenderness and pinkness but no harm. :)”

I directed sol to make several urethral size ginger plugs and chili strips. He also left several larger pieces for us to use as we desired. You can see them on the plate below. The white bowl contains just squeezed lemon juice:We also had on hand the yoghurt, tissues and damp face towels as neutralizers. Lemon juice has also proved effective, although we had that for a different reason…We set a timer, because MzAntonina and I do tend to get distracted, time wise and we had a deadline of about an hour or so, to allow time for sol and I to prepare for the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade that night.We placed a black rubber sheet on MzAntonina’s massage table, told sol to strip and tied him to the table with black rope:I prefer using rope with carabinars for a restraint system with a quick exit, however I hadn’t brought them, so MzAntonia brought out black rope from her play box and tied it beautifully.We tied his hands behind his head and then gagged him:He said later that he “liked the gag”, it gave him:

“something to think about … it was uncomfortable enough that you had to focus to keep things together”.

Restrained in this manner, mouth gagged, how was sol to communicate a problem or safeword? We use a mix of hand signals (his hands were tied above his head but we could still see them) and of course – as you can see in the photo above – his facial gestures and noises can still indicate concerns.Out came our traveling needle play kit and MzAntonina’s sharps container:We wanted to start with needles because we thought once they were removed, the puncture wounds might respond in interesting ways to the various irritants we planned to introduce. Well, that’s our story and we are sticking to it. The fact we also really enjoy putting needles into male genitals has nothing to do with it….We snapped on some of MzAntonina’s great pink latex gloves. I’d like to stress here: NEVER ever play with these kind of irritants without gloves!We swabbed down sol’s shaft and started our row of needles about half way along, working towards the (more sensitive) top:We started with two 25 gauge needles and then two 23 gauge. We’d both been wanting to try out the various styles of needle cap and this provided an excellent opportunity. First we capped our needles with cork, then silicone (yellow) and rubber (black):We found cork the easiest to use, although of course they are single use so more expensive in the long run. We then placed a few needles under sol’s scrotum. Sol said later he found the scrotum needles “slightly sharper than on the shaft but not as intense as the head”:We wanted to insert some needles in his foreskin and shaft, but remembered the access problems we encountered last time. To avoid these we tied a black cord through his PA ring and tied it to his chest rope:This made his foreskin easy to pierce:We admired our work for a bit, then dribbled fresh lemon juice over the needles in his shaft:This caused a mild response. We then removed the needles in the shaft, allowing the lemon juice to drip into the holes:A much better response! To access the head of his cock we undid the cord and tied it to his thigh rope restraints, causing his cock to bend back like this:We each inserted a needle each:Sol reacted intensely as he always. You might recall sol said this, the first time I put a needle through the head of his cock:

“the sensation of the needles through the head is hard to describe …”the whole end of the cock is loaded with nerve endings, it’s not like skin of the shaft where you just have a pin prick at entry and exit. The skin at both ends of the head needle seems to be loaded with nerve endings. It feels like you are pushing the needle through a thick layer of nerve endings and everything tingles as it goes through this thick layer of sensation…”yes it hurts (like penetrating skin) but it also tingles and zaps almost like an electric shock … every needle also feels different, it’s like all the different nerve endings there create different intensities, a mm to each side would create a different effect…”

As I wrote on the same post:

“It was certainly intense for sol … as for me, I nearly came, just doing it! I punched one hand up in the air in a victory salute … yay!!! I’d done it!!! … and truly, I nearly came”

This time was just as good :). But this was just the “foreplay” of the scene. Now it was time to get out S(A)X’s incredibly useful urethral sound and enlarge the urethra…Both MzAntonina and I really adore sounding so I’m afraid I have no photos of our fucking sol’s urethra. Here’s one from our last scene:Sol said after that scene:

“it went in all the way …. I couldn’t feel it at the far end, like they say in the books it’s the first five or six cm of the urethra that has most sensation … but the feeling of fullness with the full diameter of the sound I almost felt like I was coming … the only other time you get that same sensation is when you are coming”

In this particular scene we also took the sound down the whole way, so we could enjoy fucking sol with it. However our main focus for the day was to widen the first inch or so, so we could insert various agents with ease.While MzAntonina had a turn I removed the needle play kit from between sol’s legs and brought the condiment plate closer:You can see to the left of that photo the lube we were using and the tiny Asian cotton baby q tips I purchase for CBT. These are so much more useful and more intrusive than the usual size in Western supermarkets.After a few minutes of fucking, sol’s urethra was nicely stretched. While MzAntonina held his cock steady I picked up the first q tip for the day and examined the contents of the plate. Choices … choices….As I mentioned earlier our last scene with MzAntonina had concluded with some q tip play using isopropyl alcohol, so we knew sol could tolerate urethral insertions with irritants. But the whole point of this scene was to work up to things slowly and obtain as much info as we could about sol’s responses to things. Refusing the urge to go straight to the fresh chilis, I looked at the milder irritants. I’d read that Tabasco sauce was potentially:

Very intense on labia or rectally on a butt plug. One bottom reports using a 1:1 dilution for ‘pleasure’ scenes and full strength for punishment scenes. Starts near full intensity and wears off over time or washing”

One man on Fet described a mixture of Tabasco and cinnamon as feeling “like hydrochloric acid was being poured into the tip of my penis”.Could be fun, then. I dipped my q tip in the mildest material on the plate: green Tabasco. I coated both sides of the q tip. With MzAntonina holding sol’s cock for me, I dabbed the inside of sol’s urethra with the tip…No reaction. Okay, then … I gently circled the the inside of sol’s urethra with the tip… Damn, only a slight reaction. So I picked up a clean q tip and dipped it in red Tabasco. Definitely a stronger reaction this time, but still not a major one.After to talking to sol later I think these condiments might have worked better if I had taken a moment to wipe away from the urethra any lube that remained from sounding. I could then use a clean dry q tip to abrade the top and inside edge of the urethra a little. I think any substances placed on q tips and inserted after that abrasion would “take” better. vampyrepain confirms this:

“The main reason that [inserting a q tip] is painful is because the fibers of the q-tip scratch your mucus membranes. Urine is very basic which makes it irritate the scratches as well as kill bacteria as it passes over your scratched urethra. Using irritants such as tabasco or alcohol on the q-tip just further the irritation, but they also lubricate so there isn’t as much scratching. For a really awful punishment that won’t be soon forgoten, dedicate a little time and first insert a dry q-tip to cause the scratches, the insert an alcohol or lemon juice soaked q-tip to cause inflammation, swelling, and irritation, then end with the tabasco soaked q-tip that will allow more of the burning sensation to penitrate into the scratched, inflammed, and sensatized tissues”

Moving along with our experiments, we next inserted a plug of fresh ginger:Sol’s urethra was slippery with pre come and lube from the sound, so the ginger plug went in easily:He was enjoying these mild sensations too much so we decided to up the ante a bit. Well, okay, more than just a bit…MzAntonina scooped up a little Dencorub with a finger tip, then rubbed it over his balls:The response was quite dramatic. Obviously the product’s blurb is right when it stated “the clear gel formulation allows for faster penetration and relief” LOL.You might like to check out YouTube for videos of men putting Bengay and similar products on their balls. There are lots of videos by drunk under graduates. However the results are the same: lots of yowling, lots of doubling over and groaning and lots of running away to have a shower.None of these options were available to sol, who was bound and gagged and completely at our mercy. We watched with great interest as his balls tightened and began deepening in color until they were almost dark red.Sol was almost biting through the gag as each wave of strong sensation built and receded. We had to tell him to be quiet, which really turns him on as well as helps him focus. At one point he called yellow and begged us to turn off the over head fan. At the time I thought he was simply cold (and was rather amazed he was aware of being cold with all the other stuff going on). Later he told me the soft cool breeze from the fan was excruciating on his balls. Next time the fan … or gentle blowing from our lips … will become part of the scene!While sol rode waves of agony, MzAntonina and I removed the final two needles from sol’s cock head. I had repeated out loud alexpierce’s reminder to be prepared for blood when removing needles from the cock head … and it was lucky I did this because we experienced the largest bleed so far. It looked amazing, pooling on the rubber sheet underneath sol:I grabbed the camera while MzAntonina, who greatly enjoys blood play of all kinds, had a wonderful time painting sol’s cock red:You can see more photos and MzAntonina’s final “art work” on my Edgeplay blog.Of course the fresh, flowing blood acted as yet another irritant on sol’s poor Dencorub covered balls, and added to his agony. MzAntonina and I exchanged looks … should we stop? I quickly dipped my bloody gloved finger tips into the cool yoghurt we had near by and applied the yoghurt to sol’s balls.He yowled very loudly through the gag.Oops. A slight Dominant cock up there, so to speak. Yoghurt only helps with chili, not Dencorub. I’d just made things worse … or from sol’s masochistic point of view, better! He’d just had to ride out the pain. I was keeping in mind Brian’s comment that “even after sessions that were excruciating for those few minutes, I have had no adverse reactions, just some tenderness and pinkness but no harm. :) “. And this proved the case with sol.We cleaned up the blood and yoghurt, noting that the Dencorub was still affecting sol’s ball tightness and color as well as his pain threshold. To keep him from getting …er … bored, we decided it was time to insert those fresh chilis.We began with a tiny strip of mild green chili:We fucked his urethra with it, and then let it sit for a while…No response. Sol later said “first tip didn’t do anything” . But then we replaced it with a red chili sliver:This was much more successful, in terms of response. We tried in and out fucking motions, also just letting it sit for a while. However the most successful position was to hold it right in and bring the foreskin up over it:This resulted in some serious noises. Sol later described it as:

“almost off the scale … that last one got well into the 9 points something out of 10″

Scott Adams’ (who created Dilbert) would probably agree. He had a rather fiendish encounter with jalapeños. I don’t usually quote vanilla blogs (as their authors may not like appearing on an adult content blog) but Scott’s description is just so good I hoped he wouldn’t mind my sharing it. This quote picks up after he’s ignored advice to use gloves and chopped jalapeños by hand:

“A few minutes passed, and I felt a tingle in my left hand – the one that directly handled the peppers. The tingle turned into a warm sensation, and the warmth turned into…well, this will take some explaining.”Imagine turning a broom upside down, so the pointy bristles are facing up. You take your hand, palm facing down, and bounce it on the pointy bristles. Can you imagine how uncomfortable that feels on your hand? Okay, good.”Now imagine that a giant troll sees you playing with the broom. He snatches it out of your hand, chews the handle into a point and shoves it so far up your ass that you can taste it. Then he uses you like a huge flyswatter to kill a nest of porcupines that are living in his salt mine. My hand hurt like that.”It felt as if my hand was literally on fire. It was one of the most intense pains of my life”

Sol later said he felt the same. Here’s another online description, this time from boundecstasy:

“i think she covered my cock in [a muscle cream called “deep heat” ]. That was shear agony… it was like dipping my cock into acid, it was stinging and burning and it was like it was on fire. I was heavily bound so could barely move. The best relief here was when she masturbated me … brought me near orgasm. This allowed me to concentrate on the orgasm and the pain subsided. However once i climaxed, it was a race to undo the restraints and a dash to the bath so i could put cool water over it to cool things down … this made it burn worse!”
In fact we’d removed the chili and begun to undo sol’s restraints believing he might need a similar dash to the bathroom. However he ferverantly told us to leave him tied.His concerns over the restraints had broken his headspace, and he tossed back and forwards, groaning through the gag loudly. I took him by the shoulders and called his name to focus him and directed him to be quiet. MzAntonina helped from the other side of the massage table, holding his head and reminding him to breathe … breathe … breathe. Soon he slipped back under again.Our alarm had gone off some time before, and we were short of time, but there was nothing we could do but pack up quietly and let sol ride the waves of sensation. After about half an hour they were reduced enough that he was happy to have the restraints removed. We’d already removed the gag.AFTERCARE:Interestingly, after such intense play, sol required minimal aftercare. We left it long enough so that by the time he had a shower – about half an hour after play – his genitals were not too painful. And by the next day he only had a small bruise on the head of his cock to show for all his adventures:

As you can see his shaft is clear of marks. Last time we did this I posted:

“In terms of all the internal play, there was some redness / soreness at the tip of the urethra immediately after play but this quickly disappeared. Sol was a tad nervous peeing for the first time after this scene:
“it hurt like hell when I finally did … my body actually refused for a couple of minutes, anticipating the pain …. and there was burning for about two days after. Still a little sensitivity in the area …”I feel more well used than pain …”

Which is a perfect way to feel at the end :)

I think sol felt the same this time. He said there was a little soreness around the urethra when peeing, but there was no redness or sore spots visible.So, all round, a successful scene that had all three participants buzzing for days!

WHAT WE LEARNEDAND WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU

What we learned from this “test session”:

  • Chemical play is perhaps not the best scene for when you have time constraints!
  • Always wear gloves and have a few spare pairs on hand
  • Never forget that chemical play can be an extremely painful form of play … sol later said “it was the most severe play we’ve done” and I agree. I actually noted to MzAntonina during the scene that sol’s responses were the most extreme I’d seen. But on the other hand from his point of view he really enjoyed the scene and “never got to the point of wanting the scene to stop”.
  • Make sure your play partner is not allergic to anything you plan to use. Discuss this in pre-scene negotiations, and for any products they are not sure of, do “test patches” on less sensitive areas of skin
  • Different people react differently to the same concentration of something, so testing something on yourself isn’t necessarily going to tell you how it will feel for someone else. Have a “test” session before you actually play. Also, check out YouTube’s videos of men putting Bengay and similar products on their balls to get a general idea of severity og sensation / response times.
  • When you plan your scene, you need to take into account those sensation response times. Also, be careful how many substances you apply … sensation may just be starting to build when you decide it’s not working and dollop on something else *grin*.Here’s a “word of warning from someone with first hand experience”:
    “Irritants (like those I have been talking about) do not act/react immediately. A friend put capcaisin on herself. After a minute or so, she didn’t feel anything so she doubled the amount applied. A few minutes later (having still felt no effect) she redoubled the amount applied. And then she started feeling it, and she couldn’t find a way to neutralize it. She found out, to her chagrin, how much capcaisin is required to cause first and second degree burns to very tender body parts.”

  • I highly recommend your sub’s genitals are shaved before such a scene. It provides a much cleaner canvas to work on!
  • Inserting things into the urethra is a contentious topic. Some kinksters are completely against the idea, and have valid reasons. However if urethral play is something you and your sub want to explore, then keep this advice – which I totally agree with – by MissPlease in mind:

    “I’m of the belief that putting substances in your urethra could cause some damage. I like to err on the safe side especialy when it involves genitalia (even if I do ball busting). When it comes to the urethra or anything internal, I’m very careful. The inside of the urethra is very delicate and can be damaged easily. Inserting oils and ointments might cause some caustic burns. Even with sounds we are warned that whatever is inserted should be sterile and smooth. Sure, a certain amount of bdsm is experimental, but I do try to seek out experienced and educated/informed sources before trying stuff if possible”

  • We started with a fairly intense scene because sol is a severe masochist. What if you want to try chemical play at a milder sensation level? Why not start with toothpaste. I’ve read that it provides a “mild burning sensation when used anally, fairly popular and the most often used in regular scenes, when substances are used. Unless you think you’re very sensitive, I’d use full strength.” The brands Crest and Closeup are recommended. subfemmepet notes that:
    “toothpaste applied to the clit is yummy: :):it varies in its intensity..dies down, comes alive again, ….cleanest clit in town ! minty fresh:t :): similar effect on anus..if you lack a clit, lol”

  • Tiger Balm doesn’t work for sol, which means it may work for those seeking slightly milder sensations (although having said that everyone responds differently) and also seems a popular product to use of female subs as well as males. Druid found it “invigorating without being excruciating. Even when applied to the helmet and eye it is challenging but tolerable”
  • Fresh ginger is also a great mild to intermediate irritant. We’ve had fun with it – you can use ginger juice, make ginger dildos etc . If you’ve not explored figging in the past, have a read of this BDSM For Beginners post. There is also a Figging group on Fet :)
  • Needle play worked well as abrasive “foreplay” for our chemical play scene … the punctures in his skin after the needles were removed responded extremely well to the application of irritants. If you are into needle play we definitely recommend doing this first
  • Combining other types of abrasion play (stimulating the surface of the body with abrasive materials such as rough silk, coarse cloth, leather, sandpaper, brushes, fingernails …. even twigs, if you include birching) with chemical play has excellent results. Abrasion is more effective on an area of skin which has already been made tender so you could start with a spanking or nipple torture (I’ve been collecting handmade wooden kitchen / cleaning brushes for a while … they are excellent at abrading nipples) and move on abrasion play of various types, then finish up with chemical play.
  • You could also utilize other natural materials like botanicals (for one example, nettles)
  • Before inserting a little bit of something into the urethra with a q tip, you might like to take a moment to wipe any lube from the area (if you’ve been sounding) and then use a clean dry q tip to abrade the area a little. You’ll find the substance you then insert will “take” better
  • How about considering chemical play for LDR and web cam play? It makes an excellent training tool. Here’s Vince from Obedience Realized, who I quoted at the very beginning of this post:
    “I enjoy using it as a training device. I prefer to build a submissive’s pain tolerance before they meet me for play again. Right now, boy Jake is preparing to visit and about a month. Once a day, I order boy Jake to cover [his] perineum, the balls, and the shaft of[his] cock with the capsaicin. The intense pain and burning reminds him of what is coming soon and of his service to me. This chemical has a longer staying power and makes a definite impression. Once a submissive has been exposed to it, just mentioning it can change a behavior.

MORE ON NEUTRALIZERS

Here’s the basic thing to remember:

“Water soluble irritants respond to safewords; they wash off.

“Oil-based irritants do not respond to safewords; they do not wash off easily.”

It’s worth further researching other ways to neutralize the sensations, just in case the “waves” prove too severe for your sub.Vanillas who use these products often find they feel too strong, and there are various places online where you can read their solutions. However you are going to find as I did that internet advice can be varied and contradictory. Scott Adams found this, too:

“With my good hand, I groped for the iPad and searched for home remedies. For every report of a treatment that worked, three people reported that it didn’t. I tried ice. I tried milk. I tried alcohol (internal and external). I tried sour cream. I tried ketchup. Each of those things worked for as long as it kept my hand cold, but as soon as my hand reached room temperature, the burn returned. And according to my fellow idiots on the Internet who had made the same mistake, the burn could last most of the night”I made it through dinner with my hand submerged in a bowl of milk. By now, two hours had passed and the level of pain hadn’t subsided one iota.”

I do recommend reading the rest of his story, it’s a good one (and includes what happened when he needed a pee). Eventually:

“Steve’s wife, Sandy, was nice enough to get some Lanacane from their house. After I applied the Lanacane, the pain stopped. I can’t say for sure that the Lanacane was the reason the pain stopped…”

Certainly add Lanacane to the list of potential neutralizers, along with other anesthetics like Solarcaine, Xylocaine and Ambesol. These can be used after a scene to relieve pain, but some kinksters also use them before and during scenes.I’m going to include some of the varied advice I found online below. I can’t at the point confirm these suggestions, but at least if some of the various solutions are listed in one spot in this blog post of mine, you know you have a reference point where you can head, if you hit trouble in your own play.For muscle creams:Ehow suggests:

  1. Blot off any excess Bengay with the facial tissue, toilet paper, or paper towels. Do not rub the affected area, because this could make the Bengay absorb even more into your skin.
  2. Saturate a cotton ball in olive oil.
  3. Blot the affected area with the saturated cotton ball. Repeat until the burning sensation lessens. Wash the affected area with soap and cool water to remove the olive oil. Use cool water because warm water will open your pores, allowing more Bengay to penetrate the skin.
  4. Pat the skin with the towel to dry. Do not rub the towel against the skin.
Ehow UK offers a different version:

  1. Avoid water when trying to remove Bengay and other analgesic products from skin. Bengay is not soluble, meaning water will only spread the ointment around, worsening the burning sensation.
  2. Pour equal parts of lemon juice and antibacterial soap into a spray bottle and mix thoroughly.
  3. Spray the lemon juice-soap mixture on the affected area and scrub thoroughly.
  4. Blot dry with a damp cloth.
  5. Wash the area to remove any lingering Bengay formula or soap.

A mother who had problems with her child wrote this:

WHAT TO DO: Remove any excess ointment with a kleenex. Do not rub it in. Douse a cotton ball in olive oil and use that to cleanse the affected area gently. Then wash it off with water. Pat the skin dry.

Kinksters who know their stuff, like Midori (in Wild Side Sex: The Book of Kink p.107) suggest:

  1. only using the creams externally
  2. start with a small amount
  3. make sure you have witch hazel will cut oil based material
  4. wet towel to remove it
  5. aloe vera will sooth

Mistress Matisse recommends milk.Still need help?! Here’s one kinkster’s emergency “Oh God help me!” routine:

“I’ve had some very intense sessions before, and I’ve ran screaming to the tub many times. When that happens, this is my emergency “Oh God help me!” routine:”penis under bath tub tap with ice cold water flooding it. This will make it bearable instantly. Then, repeated washing and rinsing with dish soap. Then apply vegetable oil and wash and rinse more as needed. Then dunk little jiggling pink pee pee in cold milk…finish with some vegetable oil, collapse on the floor and catch your breath!!”(And don’t even think about doing that again for at least a year!)”

WILL THERE BE A “NEXT TIME”?

Absolutely. While we pushed sol a long way with this chemical play scene, he was delighted to be pushed and later confirmed he:

“never got to the point of wanting the scene to stop”.

Which means we can keep on with our chemical play explorations :)

WHAT MIGHT BE TRY NEXT TIME?

There are so many things we want to explore, with chemical play. Here are a few that come to mind:

  • We had several products on the tray and in the kitchen that we didn’t try during this scene, so we have those to look forward to :)
  • Things others have tried / discussed that we might explore: eucalyptus oil, Vicks Vaporub (“Start with small dabs. The effect peaks quickly and fades in about 15 minutes. Very hard to remove”), radishes, wintergreen oil, menthol, any form of camphor etc
  • Cinnamon oil I now have, and want to try. Midori recommended it to me, for CBT for masochists. Mistress Matisse has written a good article on how to use it. I’ve also read that it’s best “used on nipples (full strength), it provides a mild burning sensation and a nice odor:). Used on the labia, it provides a burning sensation which at full strength is very intense. (My play partner dashed for the bathroom to wash it off, others have found it just bearable and very intense). I usually apply it with a q-tip. This is strong stuff most. Be very careful! I’d recommend a 20:1 dilution to start.” This story echos that caution: cinnamon oil burned off a layer of skin in a rather sensitive area because we didn’t wash it off quickly enough, that wasn’t much fun”
  • Clove oil is also recommended by hardcore players. I recently used it very effectively to help toothache. It’s going to take a while before I can stop associating it’s smell with non consensual tooth pain!
  • For American readers: Mistress Matisse recommends Listerine breath strips and Altoid mints for both boy bits and girls bits. She especially recommends using the red cinnamon ones, with flames on the box. In a podcast she describes using inserting them into the urethra of one man (who usually takes a lot of pain), who almost levitated. Another person suggests breath mints like Minty Fresh (“I get a breath mint and put it on the tip of my dick. When it is on there for at least two minutes I always get a one-minute orgasm and it feels great.”)

  • Capsaicin is definitely worth more research and exploration on it’s own. I’ve been growing several different types of chili here at home, and have found this website and another local one the Hippy Seeds Company where I can purchase even the hottest chili’s seeds. I highly recommend you check out their You Tube chili testing videos to see how hot some chilis can be, and how the body reacts to them.
  • I’d also like to explore more hot sauces. For example, I found two products called “Pleasure and pain” with whip wielding Dommes on their labels. One comes from the US:

  • The other is from Australia. They look like the kind of items it would be fun to show sol … just before I poured them down somewhere lethal!
  • I’d also like to try some of these products – and also Dencorub – on other body parts. Perhaps around sol’s anus. Fetish Info Exchange also suggests some interesting suppositories: “fresh ground spices can produce irritations that range from heat to intense itching. Using these with glycerine suppositories can be even more intense.” I thought I’d also spend some time reading more about Miss Nancy’s punishment suppositories.
  • We had sol bound and gagged lying down because that was the best position at Mz’s place. It also provided excellent access to his genitals when two dominants were working on him. However once we get more of a feel for how he responds to these various items I want to try incorporating chemical play into other forms of play.
  • Applied after a spanking or birching (my favorite form of abrasion play) for example. The wounds, pricks and abrasions left by the twigs would provide a perfect canvas to apply irritants. I could also use our untreated hemp rope to abrade the skin a little in private spots before the application of other things.
  • Even another favorite game of mine, sub hunting, would work – there’s a real potential for using certain products that result in a strong scent after ingestion.

I hope this post has been useful. A final word: be careful … and have fun!REFERENCES AND ONLINE RESOURCES:Scott Adams The Night I Learned To Follow DirectionsMs160’s BDSM For Beginners series – the fine art of figgingBrian on Tribe – BDSM Techniques “Oh God help me!” Chili Seed BankFemdom Resources – post on Listerine cartoon by annmo nightFigging.com – Ginger, wasabi, peppermint, lemons Food playMistress Ariachne’s BDSM Workshop – Chemical play scenes Mistress Matisse – Pour Some Sugar On MeMultics – My BDSM – IrritantsMultics – Irritants info folderOTKgirl – Miss Nancy’s punishment suppositoriesRaven Shadowbourne – Types of play 4: ointments, oils and jelliesVince of Obedience Realized – Abrasion PlayVince of Obedience Realized – Chemical PlayWiki – List of capsicum cultivarsWiki – Scoville scalePODCASTS:Mistresse Matisse – Altoids mints and Listerine Breath Strips podcastFORUMS:Collar6 – Chemical play threadFetish Information Exchange – Irritants threadFetish Information Exchange – Playing with fire threadGet Dare – Q tip pain threadInformed Consent – FiggingKink.com – Extra Strength Bengay, Icy Hot, Tiger Balm etc threadLiterotica – Chemical play threadLiterotica – Post anal play threadMilovana – Icy Hot? threadMy Masturbation – Menthol threadOrgasm Denial – Icy Hot on female parts? threadProfessional Domination – Deep heat on male genitals threadSMPlace – Icy Hot threadTribes – New to BDSM – Info on scents, oils and suchTribes – Mediplay – urethral sound threadFETLIFE:Cock and ball tortureFiggingSpices, oils, roots and balms for sadism or sensual intensificationStinging nettles and botany playInteresting threads:

YOUTUBE:Bengay on balls search results (enjoy!)Hippy Seeds CompanyYou Tube chili testing videosBOOKS:Hardy Haberman Family JewelsMidori Wild Side Sex: The Book of Kink WORKSHOPSEdukinkSome like it hot

Thank you:MzAntonina and MacTheKnifefor a glorious dayScott Adamsfor sharing his jalapino experienceVince – Obedience Realizedfor inspiring the title of this postPhotos:Ms160″Pleasure and pain” bottlesfrom Chili Seed BankandHot Sauce.com
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CBT + needle play with MzAntonina

Posted by Mistress160 on Saturday Jan 8, 2011 Under CBT

This post is about Edgeplay

Please don’t read it if you are not
interested in learning about:
urethral play, urethral sounds, needle play
and medical play



As part of our New Year celebrations we organized a scene with MzAntonina, a polyamorous lifestyle friend who lives in Sydney with her submissive MacTheKnife.

We’ve all known each other for a few years now, have attended quite a few events together (especially Black Sash nights), have learned new skills together (such as sharing our first electrical play / violet wand lesson / scene at Hardcore Heaven), tested out each other’s new toys (like S(A)X’s The Rod), have really got into the Femdom tea party thing together, have even shared the stage for a kinky workshop panel (with MsGawjusRedhead, for Uber’s How to Find a Dominant panel) and just really enjoy playing together *evil grin*.

MzAntonina is also an extremely talented jewelry maker. A couple of years ago, the weekend of Rake and Hawksbury’s collaring, MzAntonina and Hawksbury both gifted me bracelets. At the time I wrote in a post titled “Gifts of commitment and friendship“:

“Sitting on the plane I realized sol and I had just spent a perfect weekend surrounded by the most wonderful kinky friendship. I held my arm up and jingled my bracelets. They looked vanilla. Like Hawksbury’s collar. She will wear that collar everywhere, it’s powerful meaning – the memory of her vows – concealed to most. But tangibly there with her, to remind her of what matters most.


“I will wear my bracelets everywhere, their meaning – the gift of kinky community, of friendship – equally concealed. But equally there. Only I will know they contain the memory of that weekend. Those memories – those very special vows, the BDSM scenes at the party and later, the good food and wine, the laughter of friends – will warm me every time I wear these gifts of kinky friendship”

Fetlife Northern NSW group munch regulars will recall how devastated I was when MzAntonina’s bracelet (on the left of the photo above) broke at a munch a few months back, after a couple of years hard wear. MzAntonina very kindly restrung it for me before Xmas.

During that visit I happened to mention that sol and I had been receiving instruction in genital needle play. While MzAntonina had experience with needle play, she had not placed needles in the shaft or head of a cock. She suggested designing a matching necklace in return for my lending sol’s genitals for a CBT scene involving needle play.

This was a wonderful and unexpected gift idea, because to be honest, I would have been delighted to organize such a scene with sol and MzA at any time :)

We agreed that next time sol and I were in Sydney we would put aside an afternoon for this scene, and that we would bring our needle play gear down. When I also suggested we bring our sound and explore sounding – something else she’d been looking forward to trying – as well as other forms of urethral torture, MzAntonina was a very happy rabbit indeed.

So were sol and myself, anticipating this scene.

We joined MzAntonina and MacTheKnife for lunch last Sunday. The plan was then to play for an hour or so, and then head over for afternoon tea with other kinky friends at AugustusSeizeHer‘s House of Wafflé.

We negotiated the scene we had in mind. I suggested repeating the scene where alexpierce had taught me about cock needles – piercing different areas of the cock to see how each differed, so starting with a row of needles up the shaft, then piercing the foreskin a few times … and perhaps the head, if all was going well. Perhaps trying different gauges to see how they felt in the cock’s “butter like” skin.

BDSM Digest - Needles for play piercing

We could take things from there, perhaps moving on to some urethral torture if we had time … or perhaps picking up the scene again at AugustusSeizeHer’s if we ran out of time. MzAntonina agreed.

MzAntonina was already experienced with non genital needle play so we didn’t need to go through that side of things, other than to reassure each other we were both familiar with handling and inserting needles. You might like to have a look at this earlier post, if you are looking for more practical information on piercing.

Sol fixed one of our torch / headlights to MzAntonina’s forehead:


These head torches really make needle play easier: they provide a good light and leave your hands free. We then stripped sol down to his pretties (which MzAntonina greatly admired) and restrained him face up on MzAntonina’s massage bed. We planned to use the area between his legs for our needle play gear:


You can see S(A)X’s Urethral Sound there – we’ll talk about that more in a moment – along with latex gloves (I loved MzAntonina’s pink latex gloves, which had been sold to raise money for breast cancer) and the needle play plastic storage container we use when we travel:


We also assembled tissues, needles, swabs and a sharps disposer.

We swabbed down sol’s shaft and started our row of needles about half way along sol’s shaft, working towards the top. I recommend working in this direction because the shaft becomes more sensitive towards the top. This was something we first did with alexpierce and have done several other times since.

As this was also a bit of a workshop for MzAntonina I also thought we might try different gauges. We started with two 25 gauge and then two 23 gauge:


MzAntonina and I alternated inserting the needles. About eight needles in … and sol was completely gone:


We were very proud of our straight row of needles:


These included 21 gauge and 19 gauge.

MzAntonina quickly picked up on the play possibilities of the different sized gauges, as well as how to use even a single row to great effect. Here MzA runs a finger over the taut skin:



Then (after adding some more needles – two 25 gauge and then two 23 gauge):


We ran a quill and then a Wartenberg Wheel over this area (sorry I didn’t take photos, I was having too much fun) and then tried twisting individual needles:


And then twisting sol’s entire cock:


This proved very effective, in terms of sol’s responses:


We then focused our attention on the head of sol’s cock. I was a bit concerned about needle stick as we didn’t have any tiny corks or rubber stoppers (they are on order) but we thought we’d be okay if we were very careful. If you are new to needle play I’d suggest at this point taking out the needles in the shaft before proceeding to the head, as it will give you more maneuverability.

Now while alexpierce had shown me how to put a needle into the head of sol’s cock I’d not done this without supervision from someone more experienced before. Sol really wanted me too – and I knew he’d really enjoyed the sensations it created – and of course so did MzAntonina.

So I took my courage in both hands….

This was the result:


Sol reacted intensely. He said later:

“the sensation of the needles through the head is hard to describe …

“the whole end of the cock is loaded with nerve endings, it’s not like skin of the shaft where you just have a pin prick at entry and exit. The skin at both ends of the head needle seems to be loaded with nerve endings. It feels like you are pushing the needle through a thick layer of nerve endings and everything tingles as it goes through this thick layer of sensation…

“yes it hurts (like penetrating skin) but it also tingles and zaps almost like an eldctric shock … every needle also feels different, it’s like all the different nerve endings there create different intensities, a mm to each side would create a different effect…”

It was certainly intense for sol … as for me, I nearly came, just doing it! I punched one hand up in the air in a victory salute … yay!!! I’d done it!!! … and truly, I nearly came.

MzAntonina placed another needle in the head, and then I did one last one:


You can see MzAntonina is holding sol’s cock upright by his PA piercing, which kept her fingertips safe from needle stick. This gave us the idea that it was time to introduce MzAntonina to S(A)X’s really wonderful urethral sound:


You can read more about our sounding experiencing with this instrument here.

We decided to leave the needles in place in sol’s cock to keep up the intensity of the scene. MzAntonina held his cock upright by the PA piercing while I introduced lots of sterile lube to the sound and sol’s urethra. Ideally if you are planning to insert the sound the whole way you can use a syringe to get lube further down the urethra. However sol and I had never managed to insert the sound the whole way, so I’d not brought a syringe. It turned out we didn’t need it:


To begin, I gently ran the tip around sol’s urethra and into it, gently forcing more lube down his urethra. I then straightened the sound again, positioned the tip above the hole and then gently inserted the sound’s tip.

We’d received good advice the first time we played with sounds to just let the sound drop / move down under it’s weight. This always works well. With sol’s level of stimulation during this scene and the combination of lube and pre come, the sound dropped into his cock exquisitely…

Sol said later:

“it went in all the way …. I couldn’t feel it at the far end, like they say in the books it’s the first five or six cm of the urethra that has most sensation … but the feeling of fullness with the full diameter of the sound I almost felt like I was coming … the only other time you get that same sensation is when you are coming”

As I commented in my BDSM For Beginners post on Urethral Sounding, it’s difficult to get people to describe how sounding actually feels. It seems to be a very difficult sensation to describe. Sol ended up calling it “a unique sensation“. He said this in the earlier post:

it feels very sensitive … it’s a very delicate sensation … it isn’t intensely pleasurable … more subtle … some people say about power exchange, to me it does require a kind of surrender and letting go to do it … sort of in the same way you need a certain mindset to allow someone to lick your eye ball, you have to will yourself to allow it, even though it’s nice”

After a few moments I handed the sound to MzAntonina:


Sol reported a slight burning as the sound moved in and out, and a slight burning from friction and the feeling of fullness. Meanwhile MzAntonina was really enjoying her first sounding experience. Look at her evil grin:


She told us later she found it as intense as fisting.

Finally we moved to another form of urethral play sol had wanted to try for a while. With his cock well open and very sensitive from the sound play, it seemed the perfect time.

Sol has long been interested in the idea of urethral torture with stingy things – lemon juice, tabasco sauce, chili power, raw chilis, fresh ginger, Denca Rub for icy hot etc. Some of these items are intense enough on the outside, imagining them on the inside – perhaps introduced via cotton buds / q tips – made for good fantasies. Could we also make them work in a scene?

(if you are confused about cotton buds / q tips, have a read of this Wiki page, which has good illustrations)

We found a couple of online mentions of q tip play, which sounded intriguing:

“I also have experienced narrow qtips, soaked in rubbing alcohol … I avoid and miss the insertion of cathers,sounds,qtips in the uretha. Butt, female dommes drip small amts of alcohol, from an eyedropper, into the head of the penis and I scream in delight as the burning senstaion trickles down the uretha. Care should be taken with the qty of alcohol dripped into the uretha .I would not recommend other liquids because of the possiblity of infection or severe burning”
Unsu.. (don’t have full name) tribes medplay thread

“Tiger Balm (or BenGay/Icy Hot) on a q-tip, swirled just inside the opening of the urethra, probably will. The benefit of Tiger Balm over BenGay/etc is that Tiger Balm lasts longer”
CutieMouse forum literotica thread

“I recommend sticking to things that can be put in your mouth and not going further than about 3/4 of an inch with the q tip. Wasabi is pretty excruciating”
Domina tribes medplay thread

Wasabi??? Mmmmm…. this was confirmed by musty21 on a get dare q tip pain thread:

“make sure the end that goes in is wet with tabasco or icy hot or toothpaste”

On the same thread here’s vampyrepain:

“The main reason that [inserting a q tip] is painful is because the fibers of the q-tip scratch your mucus membranes. Urine is very basic which makes it irritate the scratches as well as kill bacteria as it passes over your scratched urethra. Using irritants such as tabasco or alcohol on the q-tip just further the irritation, but they also lubricate so there isn’t as much scratching. For a really aweful punishment that won’t be soon forgoten, dedicate a little time and first insert a dry q-tip to cause the scratches, the insert an alcohol or lemon juice soaked q-tip to cause inflammation, swelling, and irritation, then end with the tabasco soaked q-tip that will allow more of the burning sensation to penitrate into the scratched, inflammed, and sensatized tissues”

All this was inspiring, as was this practical advice by WoWaddict:

“to me personally Q-tips dont hurt much unless you play with them while theyre in. I insert them all the time with just spit for lube and in my experience the only time it will hurt for more than 3 pee’s or so is when you insert it pull it out – reinsert it a few times. So I recommend you all try it! Then next time lube it with toothpaste or icyhot Muahahahaha”

With all this excellent advice in mind I poured some isopropyl alcohol:


into a small bowl and added several tiny cotton wool buds (q tips):


Note these are a special type of baby cotton bud from Asia that is both smaller than the standard size and differently shaped to the “baby safety cotton buds” (see Johnson Baby cotton buds info and pix here) sold in Western countries.

As one of us held sol’s cock up by his PA piercing, the other inserted a wet cotton bud down sol’s urethra. We ran it around the tip to judge sol’s reactions and then inserted them further down the urethra. Circular motions proved extremely effective. I’m afraid by now I was having way too much fun to take any photos, sorry.

Sol roared so loud I had to whip off my (extremely wet) panties and stuff them in his mouth. Sol said later:

“it hurt like fuck :) :) :) :).

“It was bright loud burny stingy pain. I’m not surprised I made a lot of noise. But one of the best things was the reaction from Mistress and MzAntonina: “gee that really seemed to hurt, let’s do it again!”

“I’m definitely looking forward to doing it again plus with other substances”

What a wonderful way to end a scene!

Afterwards it was time to take the needles out:


There was some blood from the needles in the head but not the shaft, something alexpiece had already warned me to expect. Sol wrote:

“pain goes away quickly once the needles are out, but there is still some sensation from the ones in the head … these throbbed and zapped for several days after … in fact they are still zapping as I write this, very mildly, just twitches …. feels on, if you know what I mean…

“it would have become unbearable if mistress had not let me come several times … at the end of scene:


and then later again that evening and then again the next evening. Mistress also was very turned on and came very quickly when she asked me to service her””

Every time I wear this lovely necklace I’ll remember how much fun we all had:

AFTERCARE

For those interested in trying such a scene, I want to cover the aftercare. Here’s sol’s cock after we finished:


We rubbed Savlon on the shaft to keep the skin from drying out (the Wartenberg Wheel had created a lot of tiny pin pricks, which dried the skin as well as bruising the skin over the needles) and stop any infection.

Sol ended up with three bruises on his cock head:


Sol said these bruises:

provided pleasant stimulation, they were not painful, I was just aware of the sensations. They would have become unbearable if mistress had not let me come several times … end of scene, later again that evening and the next evening”.

I know I quoted that before, but it needs to be re-quoted as part of aftercare. If you have your sub in chastity you definitely need to leave him out of any devices until the bruises fade.

In terms of all the internal play, there was some redness / soreness at the tip of the urethra immediately after play but this quickly disappeared. Sol was a tad nervous peeing for the first time after this scene:

“it hurt like hell when I finally did … my body actually refused for a couple of minutes, anticipating the pain …. and there was burning for about two days after. Still a little sensitivity in the area …

“I feel more well used than pain …”

Which is a perfect way to feel at the end :)

Thank you:
MzAntonina
for so many things :)

MzAntonina + MactheKnife
for feeding us twice the day of this scene!

Photos:
Ms160

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BDSM for Beginners – Urethral Sounding

Posted by Mistress160 on Sunday Jul 25, 2010 Under Uncategorized
Ms160 using S(A)X’s sound on sol

Last year at Kinkfest, sol and I attended an excellent workshop on urethral play. Ever since then we’ve been wanting to experiment with this form of play, especially with sounds. A recent visit to S(A)X provide the perfect implement: a “hand made Stainless Steel Urethral Sound, made in the Sax metal workshop, only the best medical toy you have used!”.

It looks like this:

sax-sound

Because I’ve not written about urethral play and sounding before I’ve turned this post into part of my BDSM For Beginners series … you can also read it over on my BDSM For Beginners blog, where it’s part of the Edgeplay series, that explores more advanced forms of play. This post will address the following questions raised by readers:

  • What’s urethral play?
  • Are sounds and dilators the same?
  • What are the risks?
  • Why do people do it?
  • Can women do it?
  • What’s the best way to learn how to do this?
  • When it’s time to try…
  • Ms160 and sol’s first session
  • Where can buy sounds?
  • References and Online Resources

Some quick housekeeping re my BDSM For Beginners series:

  • These posts are usually very long (they are often based on my notes for two hour seminars). They require a pee break in the middle, unless you are a severe masochist, and at least one coffee break. You think I’m joking, don’t you … ha! Okay, cross your legs then …
  • BDSM For Beginners’ posts are not so much about my own experience as collating the experiences of other kinksters and checking out some good links for you, to further explore subjects that interest you. If you’ve experienced sounding and would like your experiences and any advice you’d like to share added to this post, drop me a line either via the C Box or my profile at Fetlife.

Ready?

WHAT’S URETHRAL PLAY ?

Ms160 using S(A)X’s sound on sol

There is actually not a huge amount online about this form of play, and most of what you’ll find is from a male perspective. Wiki gives a vanilla view, which is not very helpful for kinksters. I think KennedyRay provides a good intro to the topic, in a BDSM context:

“Urethral play is play that involves inserting objects into the urethra, and sometimes the bladder. In some cases, these scenes can be associated with people into medical scenes (playing amateur urologist hour), or in the BDSM scene, is closely associated with control and dominance. For the submissive/bottom, the psychological idea of being violated in such a manner, the inability to control bladder functions (if catheters are inserted into the bladder) along with the physiological sensitivity of the urethral lining can be quite a trip…

“In urethral play, you generally have two kinds of instruments that you can use. A sound is one type of device that comes in a variety of widths and is inserted into the shaft. Most people who are heavily into the use of sounds usually try to dilate or stretch the urethra, although there are many who get into seeing how far they can go as well. Sounds are sort of like wands usually made out of surgical stainless steel.

“Catheters are very different. A catheter is inserted into the shaft with the objective of reaching the bladder. Catheters are much longer and are usually made out of latex or plastic. Some types of catheters, like a Foley, have a small balloon that is inflated after it reaches the bladder. Once the catheter is in, the person who has it in pretty much loses control of when they can piss”

I’m not going to discuss catheter play further, today. Covering sounding will be quite enough! These days sounding is also called cock stuffing. Here’s part of a detailed post from Alice of Go Ask Alice:

“Cock-stuffing, or “sounding” as it is called in the S&M community, involves inserting smooth, long, and thin surgical steel rods called “sounds” (hence the name “sounding”) into a man’s urethra. The two most commonly used “sounds” are the Van Buren, which has a J-shaped curve on the end, and the Dittle, which is straight. Other objects … may do the trick, but metal sounds are recommended because they are easier to clean and have no chance of breaking when in use”

You’ll find a lot of posts online from men interested in this topic, who put all sorts of items down their cock. There’s an interesting Fetlife thread on how people got started here and “faux sounds” they’ve used here. I must say, after doing the research for this post I am STUNNED by the things men put down their dicks. Alice was replying to a man who used a glass thermometer. Other guys write about using “nicely rounded, tapering plastic pens” , “a smooth toothbrush handle” or “a long length of fishing line folded in two (fold goes in first)” … oh and this bloke, AnythingGoes, who in his reply to KennedyRay’s Urethral Play post definitely lives up to his name:

“corn kernels, pencils, pens, brushes, tools, nails, screws, bolts ( ones so fat I had to literally screw them all the way in) wires, toothbrushes, paperclips, hollow wall anchors that I then enlarge once in by putting a screw into it, tubes, hangers, sticks, plant stalks. And a plethora of other items …

“it is very addicting. So much so that I have gone even kinkier. I have slid small fish out of fishtank into the head of my dick. I have even slid a fat earthworm almost all the way in. Made sure not to let him go. I have put moths and several different kinds of small bugs and beetles just inside also. The sensation of them moving in there is almost instant orgasm. I dream of trying a small snake at some point. Has anyone else ever done any of this?”

It’s important I quote another line of this truly mad bastard, as well: “I have been lucky and never had an infection“. He’s not fucking wrong, lol. As Alice notes, in response to the thermometer guy:

“Just because you “don’t do it often” doesn’t mean you needn’t do it safely each time. Leave the thermometers, with the risk of broken glass and mercury poisoning, behind and invest in a “steel” sound”.

Here’s ChaseUnion:

“The question of what to insert up one’s own, or anyone else’s, urethra is of paramount importance and might be best answered, any medical instrument or device which: (1) was made with the express purpose of urethral insertion, (2) has been “terminally” sterilized by a sterilization process which kills viruses (more about this later but suffice it to say that “boiling doesn’t cut it”), and (3) slides in under its own weight or with minimal pressure. We’ll elaborate on these later and even give a few exceptions, but these are the basic qualifications of any urethral insertion procedure. Knitting needles, dowel rods, chopsticks, pencils, toothbrush handles, coat hangers, and rat-tail files are all equally unsuitable.”

Absolutely. And that includes wiggling wild life! I don’t usually quote from vanilla blogs because I don’t want to embarrass their authors, but in this case I don’t think the blogger … Keagirl of Urostream … will mind. Here she explains what happens when you end up in the emergency room, with your foreign object gets stuck:

“As a urologist, I’ve had even more interesting cases where patients put things in their urethra and bladder. Naturally, I only meet these patients when the foreign objects get stuck inside. (string of pearls, sewing needles-with and without thread, small paintbrush-this particular one having been “forgotten” in the bladder for over 2 years!, mercury thermometer, pens, a McDonald’s straw-I recognized the familiar red and yellow stripes- and most recently a plastic laundry line that had become knotted inside the bladder causing the embarrassing trip to the ER)

“One of my more memorable incident happened with a patient who had this compulsion to insert paper clips in his urethra and bladder. He had an X-ray done in the ER which showed 15 paper clips in his bladder. We took him to the OR, and retrieved…. 17 clips. Yup, in the short time it took us to take him from the ER to OR, the patient had managed to get hold of two additional clips and put them inside!!!

I wonder what Keagirl would think of AnythingGoes’ list *grin*?

Actually Keagirl made her own views clear (“I’ m not so concerned about what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home, but I do care very much when they come into the ER and they get me involved.”) but a lot of urethral players responded to her blog post anyway. And are continuing to respond, despite the age of her post. The same thing happened on KennedyRay’s urethral play post – there are about 150 comments after his post, and they are still coming in, a couple of years after he posted it.

I think a lot of urethral players are desperate to find somewhere where they can write about their experiences. Posting somewhere vanilla – for example on Yahoo Questions – with queries like “is there any danger to urethral play?” and “does sounding damage the urethra?” … obviously only resulted in freaked out vanilla responses (best answer “chosen by voters” for the latter was:

“There is unlikely to be any problem if the urethral sound is inserted by a doctor or nurse as part of a medical examination or treatment. However you can cause serious damage to yourself by pushing anything up your own penis”

And that response is mild compared to this one, which is a definition of sounds from Urban Dictionary:

“The use of sounds in the bdsm community is both dangerous and depraved. The victim, who is male, often has sounds thrust with little care or compassion into his urethrea. Not surprisingly biological damage to the urethra and bladder is common, infection and serious injury often follow and lifetime bladder incontinence is a real risk. More serious cases involve penile cancer, bladder cancer and tumours of differing seriousness. The use of sounds is outlawed in many countries and to own a set of sounds is illegal. The internet, is often the place where sounds can be bought and they are available for sexual deviants worldwide…at a cost, both financially and biological”

What a nutter.

You can see from all the appalling errors in that quote why KennedyRay felt he needed to redress the balance … and the need for accurate information … with his Urethral Play post:

“For most people, the idea of urethral play is repulsive and dangerous, from my experience I find this to be untrue and wish to share some advice, opinions and suggestions”

He’s provided not only these things but a place for urethral players to share their own experiences as well as ask questions, which are answered by others who frequently return to the post (“I didn’t know so many people were into this..thats so cool” (Michael), “Just found this great web site” (shaun), “I am glad to finally find a site like this where we can share” (AnythingGoes). So do go check his post out if you are seriously into this sort of play.

You’ll find more links in the Reference and Online Resources section at the end of this post. These include Chase Union, Ltd (“Suppliers of Exotic Medical Instruments & Supplies”) sounding pages and also Tom A Gordon’s great article, first published on the internet in 1996 as “About Sounds”, which appears with approved additions on sites like Deviant’s Dictionary and MedicalToys’ website. I’ll be quoting these sources a lot.

DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOUNDS

Van Buren Sounds from S(A)X

What exactly is a sound? Here’s ChaseUnion:

“In the “good old days” before penicillin, gonorrhea was much more difficult to cure and many times left scar tissue behind, causing “strictures” which partially or completely closed off the urethra, making urination difficult if not impossible. Some benevolent medicos (Drs. VanBuren and Dittel, to name two), seeking methods to relieve this problem, designed instruments to be inserted into the urethra to locate the stricture and literally stretch it open to allow the passage of urine. Thus was born the urethral “sound” which takes it name from the Latin subordinate, to submerge to measure the depth of.

“This is the same “sound” as used in the term “sound the depths,” where the depth of a body of water is measured with a weighted line”.

You’ll find lots of different types of sounds listed for sale at various adult / kinky stores. They all look slightly different – some are straight, some are slightly curved, some are curved to follow the natural shape of the penis.

They are usually made out of surgical stainless steel. These days you can also buy silicone sounds and these are proving popular (more Fetlife threads about them here and here). However Dogger makes an extremely good argument for metal sounds on this Bad Dragon “sounding and stuffing” forum thread, where people were discussing soft (plastic) vs hard (metal) sounds:

“my experience and what I’ve mostly heard from others [regarding] sound[s], is that hard feels quite a bit better, MUCH better. It wasn’t until I had an actual sounding set of pratts that I realized how good a heavy sound feels.

“You want a sound that can slide in on it’s own, the reason so many people think sounding hurts when they try it is because they have to manually force the sound down their urethra. I can barley describe the incredible difference I felt having a steel rod sliding down inside as opposed to something I had to hold down to keep from pushing back up. I’m not saying something soft on the outside wouldn’t feel nice too, but if it doesn’t have the weight then it’s not going to feel very good. Something bunching up because it’s too soft to slide down is not a great feeling”

What type is best to buy? It’s up to you, really, in terms of what you want to try. They all do slightly different things. As Tom Gordon points out:

“There is a curve in the male plumbing system; the curve on the Van Buren sound is designed to accommodate that curve, allowing the sound to slip down the penis and into the bladder easily. The problem is that if the bottom gets hard during the process of insertion one has to wait until the erection subsides, as the curved sound cannot be inserted (or removed!) if the penis is hard.

“It is possible to negotiate the curve with the straight Dittle sound by changing the angle of the penis during insertion, but this requires a bit more skill and sensitivity on the part of the top.
“The diameter of sounds, catheters and some other medical instruments is expressed in the French system. One French unit (Fr) is .33 millimeters (.3 mm for ease of discussion). Thus, an instrument which is 20 Fr is 20 x .3 = 6 mm in diameter (0.24″).

“Most men can, without discomfort, take a much larger sound than you might imagine. That being said however, for first timers, or those who haven’t done it on a regular basis, starting out with the smaller sound diameters (i.e., 16 Fr or 18fr) and work up to the larger diameters as it feels comfortable to do so. The idea, of course, is to stretch the urethra just a bit”

When you check out places that sell sounds online you usually come across information like the following, in this case from Wiki Bmezine:

“Urethral sounds come in a variety of styles, and are used in slightly different ways:

  • Dittel sounds have a flat end and a rounded end.
  • Hegar sounds have two rounded ends, are fairly short, and are mildly curved in shape. Hegar sounds are typically the least expensive sounds on the market. These sets usually consist of slightly curved double-ended sounds starting at small sizes suitable for beginners, right up to absolutely monstrous thumb-sized sounds, for those more experienced people. These sounds are the most safe and comfortable for the female anatomy.
  • Henk sounds have a more pronounced curve at the ends, as well as a metal rib on each end.
  • Pratt sounds are longer urethral dilators (double ended ones are usually almost a foot long) with rounded and slightly bent ends. Many men enjoy them for sounding.
  • Van Buren sounds have a very pronounced curve at each end, specifically for the purpose of reaching the bladder”

Now this is all good, useful information … except for one small thing. They are misnaming commercially produced dilators as sounds.

ARE SOUNDS AND DILATORS THE SAME?

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Dittel and Van Buren Sounds

No. They are not. I’m going to quote ChaseUnion here, because they know what they are talking about:

“There is a lot of confusion about Sounds & Dilators. They are two entirely different animals for two entirely different purposes. Although Dilators may be used in some instances like sounds”

So you can use dilators for sounding? Absolutely:

“We have no objection to the use of dilators. We only want you to know what you are really buying! And their original intended use! Many advertisements (and on the Internet) speak of Sets of Sounds for sale. Usually these are Hegar Dilators. (Ask if they come in a little leatherette case. Ask if they are double ended. Ask about the shape.)

They elaborate further on another page:

“Dilators are sold singly or in sets of 8 (in a small case) and are double ended. Sounds are sold singly–almost never in sets–and are single ended. Sounds are more expensive. Beware when someone tells you they want to sell you a SET of SOUNDS”

This is exactly what Wiki Bmezine has done. You’ll find an excellent page on the Chase Union, Ltd website where they go through all the different definitions with lots of photos here. It’s where those quotes came from. If all this sounds a bit complicated, don’t panic. The thing to remember is you don’t have to buy an entire set first up. Start with a single sound, like we did, and see how much you enjoy the sensation. Speaking of which:

WHY DO PEOPLE ENJOY URETHRAL PLAY?

Ms160 using S(A)X’s sound on sol

ChaseUnion gets it right when they write that:

“The dynamics of urethral insertion are those of invasion and control of a very private and personal area and function”

Here’s Alice again:

“People enjoy using “sounds” for the pleasurable sensations felt while being inserted. They are also popular in the S&M community as a form of power exchange. Some of the curved “sounds” make getting an erection extremely difficult. If a penis starts to become erect, the person inserting the sound must wait until the erection subsides before continuing. Often sounds are locked into place so that a submissive partner cannot get an erection”

You’ll find various forum threads listed at the end of this post that contain excellent posts from people who enjoy sounding. Some of the best (at the moment) are on Fetlife. ManyOohs4U wrote on Fetlife that:

“People do sounding (1) for the sexual stimulation, (2) to enlarge their urethra, which they find interesting or exciting, and some on here do it to an EXTREME extent, or (3) use it as a base for other stimulation, applying a vibrator to it, or electro-sex signals”

Being really sick rabbits I must admit that what really turned sol and I on at the workshop on sounding was discussion about the possibilities of electrical play.

“I get excellent stimulation, and since I have been working my way up the sizes … a great euphoric feeling. I started at a fr18, and have worked up to a fr29. I also love using my sounds with my estim, now that is a great feeling”

“I like the control aspect of it. When its in nothings gonna cum out, OR if it does its gonna hurt like hell. I also like the feeling of a sound “fucking” my dick. Intense!”

Although lots of people write that they enjoy sounding, it’s quite rare to get a good description of what it actually feels like. The word “intense” gets used at lot. And I’m not the only one who’s noticed this. Here’s Sammael describing a sounding demo:

“The word “intense” is frequently used, and when the demonstration guy was asked to describe it, that was about the only word he could come up with (it was his first time experiencing it). That, and that it felt good.”

So: be warned … it’s going to be an intense experience!

What about from the “other” side? From the point of view of the other person doing the sounding, if it’s not a solo scene? Well, I can tell you from experience that’s “intense” as well, lol, and other tops agree. Lady Hotchkiss found her first sounds experience:

“Intensely erotic and sensual, WOW! … a very focused, deliberate, slow, sensual experience for all 4 people involved. It was an extraordinary way to spend an afternoon”

Some people like to call sounding a form of CBT play, but I think it’s a completely different ball game. Jade puts it best on this Eden Cafe thread about urethral play:

“Urethral play, play that involves catheterization and/or the use of sounds, is not meant to be S/M play. It is not used to hurt someone. There are lots and lots of places and ways to hurt someone that is safe and acceptable. A person’s urethra is not one of them. While Ms. Cynthia noted the many ways that sounds and catheters could be used in a D/s scene, in order to cause the bottom emotional and/or mental distress (especially in the case of catheters, which are often used in humiliation scenes) she stressed several times that urethral play is, sensation play, not pain play. This is play that is meant to be pleasurable, and if it is hurting, you’re doing something wrong”.

I’d just like you to reread that last bit:

“urethral play is, sensation play, not pain play. This is play that is meant to be pleasurable, and if it is hurting, you’re doing something wrong”.

Speaking of which:

WHAT ABOUT RISKS?

Alice again:

“The main risks with “sounding” include tearing or cutting the urethra and infection. Anything inserted into the urethra is to be cleaned to reduce the chance of infection. Some discomfort may be felt later if the sound has stretched the urethra. If that happens, people use smaller “sounds.”

“Some men also feel burning when urinating, due to irritation. If the feeling continues for an extended period of time, the urinary tract may have become infected. If this occurs, or if there is blood in the urine, the person needs to see a health care provider. For those who use sounds, being open and honest with the provider is vital, in order to discuss alternatives for avoiding infection if they plan to continue “sounding.”

Tom Gordon suggests:

“A word of caution: This kind of play is not something you should engage in with someone who is inexperienced or who does not understand all the necessary precautions. Carelessness can result in infection, injury, or other traumatic problems. You should be introduced to this kind of play in the right setting by an experienced, careful person who cares enough about you to exercise all the cautions set forth herein. This document is intended to be informational, and to discourage carelessness”

So read it carefully!

CAN WOMEN USE SOUNDS?

Photo from SexualNature blog

Absolutely. You’ve already heard from Jade, above. Now here’s Linda, from Fetlife’s Sounding and Urethral Insertion group:

“Female urethral insertion is a lot more common than many women admit to. I asked my OB about it once and she said that the reason it feels good is because the G-Spot nerve cluster is stimulated from the inside the urethra more easily in some women.

“It is relatively safe, if you don’t put things inside that are filthy. More than one of my friends said that they have masturbated with Pens, Q-tips to makeup brush handles from time to time. One of my ex BF’s liked to finger fuck. He tried that on me once, and I thought it wasn’t as bad as I would have thought initially– although I had some residual pain afterwards, but would prolly do it again…

“It’s not for everyone, but it’s nowhere near as uncommon as you would think..

I have to agree with that. I started talking about this topic at a munch last weekend and the female sub friend sitting next to me told me this was something she really wanted to try. And why not, when women can have experiences like Jade, during a sounding workshop:
“the main feeling I experienced was one of a pleasant stretching and filling. And when she slid one of them up and down inside of me, it was an almost mind-blowing sensation of being “fucked” in a whole new way, in a whole new hole. While I didn’t orgasm during her class from the sensation, I can easily see that I could have, given a little more time … I am very much ready to explore this kind of play further… ”

Or like Luscious_Apparatus who wrote on a Fetlife thread:

“Sounding feels unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. Feeling the cold steel slide into the urethral opening is a little intense at first as it’s not really something you’re used to there, but once you relax and get used to it, it’s so wonderful. I like the feeling of the larger sounds inside me and feeling that stretch. Once it is fully inserted, it’s an amazing feeling. I’ve only had the pleasure a couple of times, but I have had an orgasm everytime from it. It feels like stimulation to the G-Spot, but even more direct so way more intense.

“The best orgasm I’ve had with sounding was when we attached an electro-tens pad to the sound itself. There are no words to describe how amazing it felt. It did end up making me squirt with the sound still inside me which surprised me because I didn’t think it was possible. I definitely want to play and experience sounding further. It’s just too yummy”

outre1 elaborates further in her post “A woman’s point of view“:

“For a female, the urethra and its opening are right at the intersection of the G-spot in the vagina and the base of the clit. Urethral insertion (stuffing) combined with clit and G-spot stimulation is an awesome orgasm.

“Sounding involves pulling the sound/toy in and out of the urethra. Stuffing the urethra (leaving the sound/toy in place while playing elsewhere, my definition) blocks the Skene’s glands. This builds pressure behind and alongside the clit, which makes it more sensitive. Stuffing can cut off the urine flow, if desired. Anytime anything is done to/on a full bladder, clit stimulation seems to be increased. Maybe because the clit is pushed forward/out by a full bladder? Also, some women can cum just from being sounded. I (still) need clit stim to orgasm with sounding.

“There are two muscles that can be penetrated with sounding. Each has a different sensation when sounded. The exterior sphincter lies outside of the urethra, which is followed by the urethral ‘tube’ which is about 2” long. When sounded, the exterior muscle feels a bit stingy or peppery, but feels good about 1/2” in. Some people like to just play at this spot, taking the sound or toy just in and out of this muscle. If you sound further in, the interior muscle, which is the entrance to the bladder, has a smooth, deep, luscious feeling. For me, the sensations (and idea) of being penetrated in this way are very intimate and erotic. Please note that these pain/pleasure sensations should be delicate but profound. Stop if any real pain or blood happens. Don’t force anything. Do expect some pee to accidentally find its way out…

“This is a very slow, exacting play that lends itself to d/s or med doc play because of the sterile/sanitary technique and the exacting technique of placing the sounds. Not all tops have the discipline or patience to do this. For sanitation sake, no anal activities on a sounding day, and your partner should wear a condom for intercourse (they should anyway). No play on period days or if the bottom (or top) has any infections. As a beginning player, I advise you to consult the sterile/sanitary posts found elsewhere on this website. An diagram of female (or male) urinary anatomy is also very useful and you can google for this information.

Keep in mind Tom Gordon’s comment that:

“Women’s sounds are shorter, for the shorter urethra, differently shaped and have their own difficulties of insertion. Women are also even more prone to infection”

Here’s a Fetlife thread that shows what can go wrong when inserting something other than a sound. There’s another interesting thread on how to start re female sounding here, and a Kinkiest Female Sounder on Fetlife contest here.

Also several lovely ladies on Fetlife (such as Mastersslave) have sounding photos up on their profiles that are well worth a look if you are thinking of exploring this type of play.

WHAT’S THE BEST WAY TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT?

Sol and I attended a workshop on urethral sounding before we began this type of play and I really recommend that. Our workshop presenters were trained health practitioners and had lots of experience and practical advice. Fetlife members interested in sounding agree, MrEasy responding to a Fetlife inquiry on starting out:

“It’s not rocket science and doesn’t have to be carried out under laboratory conditions, though much of what you read would have you think so. That said, on those few occasions when something does go wrong, it can go really really wrong. So if it’s at all possible, I’d suggest having somebody experienced take you through it, hands-on, the first time.

“That’s how I learned: a bottom guy who loved being sounded showed me what to do (and injected us both with Caverject — woohoo — but that’s another story). Reading came later, and still, the importance things are the ones he taught me”

LadyHotchKiss agrees “sounds is REALLY something that is learned best by being trained one-on-one by someone with experience“. As does Tom Gordon:

“The technique cannot really be learned by reading about it. This article is intended to give you an idea of what is involved and of the pleasures which are possible. It would be best for you to attend a demonstration to actually see the procedure, and ideally to work with an experienced top to try it out, whether you are a top or a bottom”

And ChaseUnion:

“Urethral insertion in its many forms and variations would merit a rating of “TG” or “Rin the DungeonMaster rating system. Correctly done, it carries minimal risk; however a certain level of specialized knowledge and skill is required, along with a little common sense. Any person wishing to do any kind of urethral insertion for the first time should seek out someone experienced and knowledgeable in the field who is willing to act as guide and teacher. The wise beginner would first watch, taking careful note, and then practice under supervision before attempting on his own”

So before you try this type of play you need to either talk to someone who practices urethral play in your local scene or find someone who is skilled enough to present workshops on this topic. The best way to do the latter is to let your local BDSM educational event organizer know you are interested in urethral play / medical play workshops. If no-one expresses interest they won’t schedule it.

Below – in no particular order – is a (mostly North American) list of BDSM presenters who have given urethral play workshops in the past. Check their websites for their current workshop program, as well as bring them to the attention of your local BDSM educational event organizer.

  • Male tops interested in sounding, note: MrEasy on Fetlife has posted that he “present[s] on [male] sounding semi-regularly. I can’t say they’re a major part of my play life, but somehow I got a rep as a sounding top, I guess because I like using them and I’m not afraid of them.” I’m sure MrEasy would be happy to discuss the topic with you.
  • Simone Krosss presented “Medical Workshop: catheters and sounds” at Edges Dungeon in 2008 (“geared for those with curiosity about medical play as well as with a medical fetish. The workshop will focus on catheterization and sound play within medical role play and BDSM. There will be a live demo and we will discuss the risks involved with urethral insertion”)
  • Domina Dea presented “Urethral Sounds 101“at DomCon Atlanta in 2009 and LA in 2010 (“this class is meant for those interested in exploring sounds but uncertain where to start. I will discuss urethral anatomy, site preparation, safety, the pros and cons of the variety of sterilization methods, explain the difference in sounds kits, do’s and don’ts and basic technique for the beginner. This class is a live demo”).
  • Dr. Eve presented “Medical Play: From Fantasy to Edge” as part of last year’s November program at the Women’s Building, 3543 18th St. @ Valencia, San Francisco.
  • Med Play Techniques in BDSM” at the SFCitadel, San Francisco in January 2010 included study of “the safe and potentially orgasmogenic use of urethral sounds”
  • Jesse Duran (“Southern California Leather Woman 2005″) has “urethral play (catheters and sounds)” listed amongst her workshop topics.
  • The Australian workshop sol and I attended was a “Catheterisation and Urethral Sounds” workshop at Kinkfest in Melbourne (“This is a workshop designed to teach the safe way to perform female catheterisation and how to play safely with urethral sounds on men. We will discuss safety aspects of catheterisation, the different types of catheters that can be used and for what purposes. Why insert a catheter? Now it is in – what can I do with it? There will be a demonstration on female catheterisation. Supplies will be available for purchase”). As this year’s Kinkfest program is currently being put together now would be the time to drop organizers a line and request a repeat session.

While waiting for your workshop you might like to do an little extra research on the subject. BDGSales has an instructional video on urethral play, but I don’t know how good it and it also seems to be out of stock. Definitely check out Tom Gordon’s article and Chase Union’s terrific page You’re going to put a what?? Up my what?? which contains lots of essential info on sounding plus anatomy diagrams that will help you work out exactly how to proceed. As they point out:

“One doesn’t venture into a strange neighborhood without a road map or at least some fairly clear directions. By the same token, it is not at all wise to go poking around inside the human body in areas you can’t see without some idea of the internal “geography” or anatomy”

You should also join discussion groups and forums that share urethral play interests – such as Fetlife’s sounding groups (see Reference and Online Resources list below) – for more advice and stories.

WHEN IT’S TIME TO TRY IT…

You have taken the above advice about workshops on board, haven’t you?

Okay, so you’ve done the workshop. This section of the post is to provide the experiences and advice of other kinksters as to how to proceed from here.

When the time is right, keep in mind LadyHotchKiss’s advice to:

“Start slow and small. It should NOT hurt. For Me and Mine it is intimate and erotic; NOT painful, frenzied, or unfocused. Don’t begin with sounds and electrical or anything else . . . start slow and build!”

My friend Ms_Neta advises “take it slowly, and have great sounding fun”, which is also excellent advice.

So what do you need to assemble, before your first scene? As well as the sounds themselves, Tom Gordon suggests you will need:

  • Generous amounts of lubricant without preservatives or nonoxynol-9, which is highly irritating to the urethra. Surgi-Lube or any water based lure without preservatives, additives or nonoxynol-9 is recommended.
  • An ordinary serving tray
  • A sterile, or at least freshly washed, hand towel.
  • A small disposable syringe approx. 10 ml
  • Alcohol swabs or alcohol and cotton balls or paper tissues.
  • Latex gloves.
  • A clean washcloth and antibacterial soap.

Keeping a sterile environment is important. MasterRoy provides a timely reminder:

“I also would suggest sterilizing [your sounds] between play sessions and different partners”

MedicalToys.com provides another:

“HIV and AIDS virus are basically impervious to “normal” sterilizing procedures, therefore, we highly recommend that Sounds (and Sound Sets) be used by only one person, always. So if you play with multiple partners, have your own set and don’t let anyone else use it!”

Going back to the subject of lube for a moment, Wintersong advises:

“I’d like to add to the good advice from LadyHotchKiss that if/when you decide to begin experimenting with this kind of play, make the investment and buy actual sound(s) and appropriate lube. I’m a fan of Surgilube, because it is sterile and available in single use packets (and you can order it at most pharmacies)”

Here’s Alice on lube:

“Sounders use lots of lube, so the “sound” can easily slide in on its own (gentle guidance may be necessary; pushing or forcing can cause tearing of the fragile tissue). If you encounter a constriction in the urethra that the “sound” will not pass through (most likely scar tissue), do not try to drive it through. More lube and a narrower sound may be more safe and successful.

“Saliva isn’t generally recommended as a lubricant because it dries quickly (as you may have discovered already). Also, sugars from the mouth can be found in saliva that may cause urinary tract infections (UTIs). Sugars also can be found in some types of lube, sometimes listed as glycerin in the list of ingredients. Ultimately, a water- or silicone-based, glycerin-free lube with a thin consistency will probably work best for “sounding.” Silicone-based lubes are longer lasting, but water-based lubes may have a thinner consistency. However, some people find silicone-based lubes to be a bit harder to clean up. Men find what works by experimenting”

We use sterile lube, and store it in the fridge.

LionsGate provides some great practical tips on this Fetlife thread on sounding techniques and sterile procedures:

“Be sure that you scrub and wash your hands with a mild brush using Providine-Iodine (1% available iodine). The Providine-Iodine solution is an antiseptic and microbicide. Be sure you dry your hands with a sterizled towel.

“Next, to help reduce contamination even further, there is a technique on how to get your sterilzied latex gloves on: always put your fingers on the inside of the glove and slowly struggle from the inside to pull up the glove to your wrist. Try not to touch the outside of the glove as you do this or you can contaimate the glove.

“You can probably order or buy sterilized surgical gloves (not the non-sterilized dispossible kind) at your drug store. They should sell or be able to order the Providine-Iodine for you as well.

“Never touch the sterizled sounds at all with your bare hands — use the surgical latex gloves when you are ready to insert the sounds.

Ready to start? Tom Gordon sets the scene:

Before Beginning:

- Relax comfortably on the back on a fairly firm table or bed; being flat is better than being in a sling. If using a bed and another person is doing the insertion, position “the patient” diagonally, genitals at the very corner, legs spread and off the bed, for easy access and close proximity to the groin. Obviously, a table is easier for another person to do the insertion. If doing this alone, the bed or table will be more than adequate!

- Wash the genitals with warm water and antibacterial soap; dry gently. The objective is to remove surface bacteria.

- Spread the towel on the tray; if you have used the sterilizing technique I described above, just open the bundle. The towel in which the sounds are wrapped is ideal. DO NOT touch the sounds except by their handles or with clean latex gloves on.

- Arrange the sounds in order of size so that you do not have to fumble around one-handed later.

- Fill the syringe with KY; try to avoid getting large bubbles in the syringe.

- Put on the gloves; be careful what you touch after this point.

- Using a tissue, scrub each of the sounds with alcohol to kill any bacteria or fungi from the air or inadvertent touching.

Remember you may not get very far on your first few attempts. As you’ll see in sol’s and my first sounding scene below, we only inserted about a third of the sound. Because we were not planning to go more than a couple of inches sol and I did not load a syringe for our scene. If you plan to load a syringe you might like to keep LionsGate’s advice in mind:

“There is only one thing that I would take as an extra precautionary step not found in Tom A. Gordon’s write-up: When you use sterile KY lube, be sure to drip some of the KY lube first from the the actual tube as a way of ensuring that no contaminates are present from any previous use. Once you’ve done that, then add the KY lube into the luer-tip hypodermic syringe.

“I worked in a hospital for 14 years and had done many catheterizations on male patients. Dripping some KY lube first before even applying on the catheter was always an important step in the sterile technque so that there would be no bladder infection.”

For how to proceed with the actual scene, let’s follow sol’s and my explorations…

MS160 AND SOL’S FIRST SOUNDING SCENE:

Because sounding was something sol was really wanting to try, I decided to set the date for our first sounding scene on his birthday, while we were staying with MissDee in Sydney.

We had our wonderful sound from S(A)X. What else did we need? We were not planning on deep sounding or reaching the bladder so sterilization was not so much an issue, although cleanliness was. But we still wanted sterile lube. We’d looked for it at a couple of sex shops before buying it from the SAX store in Sydney … and realizing you have to ask for it because it’s kept in the fridge. So don’t forget to ASK!!!

After we’d retired for the evening I had sol lie back on the bed, but still in a position so that he could see. I sat cross legged, next to him, and handed him the camera.

I assembled on the bed a clean hand towel, a sachet of sterile lube and the sound. In our case we had a single sound, but if you have purchased a set here’s some good advice from Tom Gordon:

“Estimate what is the largest size sound which will obviously fit into the opening. You want to begin with the largest size possible because larger sounds are less ‘pointy’ and are more gentle as they slip in”

Even though I was not planning to insert the sound more than a couple of centimeters this first scene I’d also take ChaseUnion’s advice on board:

“Examine the sound carefully before you insert it, and become completely familiar with its shape, as the location and position of the handle will allow you to know where the curve of the other end is. Using your knowledge of the shape of the sound, and your knowledge of human anatomy gained from the anatomical cross-section included with this article, the sound can be gently guided into place until it rests comfortably in position”

I heavily lubed the bottom half of the sound and especially the tip area, as well as around sol’s urethra. I didn’t use a syringe because this was our first attempt at sounding and I was not planning to go past a couple of inches. When you are planning to go further, keep Tom Gordon‘s advice in mind:

“Place the tip of the KY-filled syringe near the opening of the penis; put a small blob of KY right at the opening to lubricate the passage of the syringe into the tip of the penis. Hold the cock loosely, and gently place the tip of the syringe in the opening of the cock; squeeze in a generous amount of KY (if this were toothpaste, you’d be injecting about 25mm/1″). Keep the syringe in place for a moment while you gently stroke the cock to prevent the KY from shooting out. Some people feel a bit of discomfort at this point, a slight burning at the tip of the cock. This is caused by a difference between the acid/alkaline balance of the lubricant (which is manufactured for ‘average’ people) and that of the tissues of the bottom. This sensation will pass within a minute and is nothing to worry about”

I picked up the sound with my left hand:

I’m left handed and I’d read that you needed to use the hand over which you have maximum control. I 200% agree with this, having now used a sound. I held the sound just under the ball / weight at the top. This is what felt most comfortable to me. It also allowed me to manipulate the sound easily with my fingers. I held his cock straight up and steady with my other hand.

I positioned the sound above sol’s urethra … I gently ran the tip around it and into it, gently forcing more lube down his urethra. I then straightened the sound again, positioned the tip above the hole and then gently inserted the sound’s tip.

Yes, I know I keep repeating the word “gently”. But that’s how you do it!!

We’d been advised to just let the sound drop / move down under it’s weight and this worked. Tom Gordon advises:

“Never push a sound in. Gravity is the only force used. Your job is merely to guide the sound and to prevent it from dropping in too suddenly; this is especially true until you have some experience with the technique”

I was concentrating very hard because you need to keep an eye on several things. You are not only working to keep the sound vertical but sort of working in two dimensions at the bottom. That might sound a bit weird but you’ll know what I mean when you try it. You are trying to work the tip both forwards and backwards and also left and right. The latter was easy from my point of view looking straight at sol’s urethra, but forwards and back was harder and I needed sol’s input to make sure the sound stayed on target. You absolutely HAVE to get it right, as ChaseUnion confirms:

“Once any sound is in place, it must be supported carefully either by the person inserted it or the person in whom it is inserted. Sounds are quite heavy and more weight is outside the opening in the muscle wall mentioned above than is inside. With the muscle wall serving as a fulcrum, the sound can literally fall over and could possibly cause internal damage”

I was not planning to go very deep but I looked forward to what we could do with a completed inserted sound at a future time when I had more experience:

“Once in place, very gentle and limited movement can be very erotic. Tapping the handle of the sound with a metal object or using s small vibrator, can drive them wild. The sound can also be used as an electrical contact if one is experienced in electro-torture. Some bottoms become orgasmic at even the thought of connecting a Relax-Acizor (or other electro-stimulator) between a VanBuren sound and an appropriate metal butt-plug, placing the shortest route for an electrical current directly across the prostate.”

Here’s another person’s sounding experience, from a tribe thread:

“when inserting the sound this should be done SLOWLY, lay on your back hold the penis in a upward direction start with the smallest sound, use lots of medical surgi lube start the sound into the head ,,with a LOOSE GRIP on the sound allow it to enter on it’s own,, it will slide into the urethra by it self (due toi it’s own weight) to about 3-4 inches,, for me at about this point because of the curved ends on mine,, my Owner has to “GENTLY” turn the sound one way or the other to follow the urethra tube,sometimes aiming the penis down help’s in this,, when it makes this turn holding the penis up it will slide in some more on it’s own (from it’s own wieght) this usally takes it to a point of about 6-7 inches inside me,,, from then on my Owner “GENTLY” “EVER SO GENTLY” pushes it the rest of the way in with Her hand constantly watching me (for discomfort) and listening to my comunication from how i feel and if She should turn it or what ever i may need to get it further”

I was not planning to go nearly as far as that. But it’s always good to read about what might happen on your next attempt.

I can’t really tell how much time passed because of my level of concentration, but to maintain that level of concentration I’d not advise a dominant to plan a scene of 10 – 15 minutes for first time.

I let the sound drop millimeter by millimeter:


Sol asked me to come out completely once, after we began to run out of lube and it became uncomfortable. This gave me good feedback – an indication of how far I could go with lube simply pushed in via the sound. A syringe of lube would obviously allow deeper penetration but for a first time I was happy just to learn as much as I could.

All this made me wonder: can you come, during this sort of play? Turns out there is a bit of controversy about orgasm and ejaculation with a foreign object inserted in the urethra. ChaseUnion discusses the issue on their page “to cum or not to cum”:

“Many people have done it a number of times with no apparent adverse results. In fact, they swear by the experience. This writer, however prefers to take a more conservative approach. When one looks at the forces exerted at the time of ejaculation – enough to force semen two feet into the air – and considers the effect of those forces exerted against a blocked channel, along with the effect of sphincter muscles trying to contract against a non-fluid object, and the muscle contractions meant to force fluid through a channel now being exerted against a solid object, one wonders what kind of back-pressures are created and what potential for damage exists.

“No one, including this writer can cite concrete data or cases. Remember, if you walk across a busy street often enough without looking both ways, eventually you’re going to get run over by a truck. This falls into the area of personal decision and acceptable risk levels. Each person must make up his own mind as to his own acceptable level of risk-taking”

Tom Gordon agrees:

“bottoms often feel a strong urge to masturbate when a sound has been inserted. This must be avoided because of the likelihood of injury. Bottoms often want the top to be more vigorous in insertion. This is a time when the top needs to be responsible and in control, and do only what is good for the bottom. The insertion of sounds produces such unusual and erotic feelings for some people that they need a good top to control their behavior”

So … okay … no coming, then!

Eventually I gently withdrew the sound. You can see how far we inserted the sound by where the lube stops:

Sol wanted to continue but I decided enough for first scene … also my left hand was starting to shake with effort. Not good when you are trying to insert something with complete control a millimeter at a time!

I asked sol how it felt when the sound came out:

“slight sort of after glow, like a mild burning … that doesn’t quite convey it … mildly warm I guess … does burn a bit next time you pee but very very slightly”

I remember reading in Tom Gordon‘s article that “one bottom told me that the removal felt like “an orgasm in slow motion.”

I allowed sol to masturbate himself, using the lube already there, while I pinched his nipples, and then allowed him to come. After all it was his birthday. Was it a good orgasm?

“absolutely … there was a little bit of burning but not particularly unpleasant”

When we proceed further we’ll keep Tom Gordon‘s instructions in mind:

“When the sound has entered about an inch more than the length of the penis, change the angle of the penis: slowly lower it toward the testicles to form approximately a 45 degree angle; gradually raise it again. This will negotiate the curve in the plumbing and the sound will drop into the bladder. Guide the sound with gentle manipulation of the handle; don’t push!

“Remove the sound slowly… You can move it in and out slowly if the bottom enjoys the sensation. The larger sizes of sound will tend to drop in more readily because of their greater weight.

“Inject a bit more KY as before, and go on to the next larger size. Continue in this manner, going to larger sizes until the bottom feels discomfort; use plenty of lube. Most often, discomfort due to the size of the sound will be felt as slight burning at the tip of the cock. You can tell that you have reached the bottom’s optimal size when the skin at the tip of the cock begins to stick to the sound during insertion and removal, even though well lubricated; the tissue forms a slight funnel-shape as the sound is moved. Going to a larger size after this will actually stretch the urethra (It will shrink back to its original size unless this treatment is done three or four times).

“When you have removed the largest sound you intend to use, gently milk the bottom’s cock to remove some of the KY. Prepare the sounds to be cleaned and sterilized before subsequent use.

I had been looking forward to talking to sol about what sounding feels like. I mentioned above how lots of people give great quotes about why they do sounding but no one says how it feels. But interestingly I encountered the same verbal block with sol. It seems sounding is simply a very difficult sensation to describe. Sol ended up calling it “a unique sensation”.

Does it hurt?

“nooo …. it hurts if you push the wrong angle … this is why the angle is crucial and you can’t go sideways [Ms160: this relates to my trying to describe the working in two dimensions] “

I tried again to ask him to describe how it feels:

it feels very sensitive … it’s a very delicate sensation … it isn’t intensely pleasurable … more subtle … some people say about power exchange, to me it does require a kind of surrender and letting go to do it … sort of in the same way you need a certain mindset to allow someone to lick your eye ball, you have to will yourself to allow it, even though it’s nice”

This reminded me of something Tom Gordon had mentioned:

“You will discover that the bottom experiences great pleasure when the sound is inserted to a certain depth. The top should gently manipulate the sound at that point; the sound is probably stimulating the prostate gland intensely, and in a way not possible through any other sexual technique.

“Most bottoms enjoy seeing the insertion, especially the sound vanishing into the penis by its own weight. Many bottoms have expressed amazement to me that such a large object could go so far in without pain. They feel a sense of complete submission of their most intimate orifice and a voluntary vulnerability beyond any previous experience”

I asked sol whether he wanted to do it again:

“absolutely … enthusiastically … frequently … lol … please…”

That’s a yes then…

The second time we played we did go in a little deeper, and we’ll keep working on that and keep blog readers advised. … and says sol, combine it with a TENS until when we get one…

WANT ONE?!

sax-sound

You can either buy sounds in sets or individually. Remember Chase Union’s advice:

“Dilators are sold singly or in sets of 8 (in a small case) and are double ended. Sounds are sold singly–almost never in sets–and are single ended”

The sound we use is hand made at S(A)X, “hand made Stainless Steel Urethral Sound, made in the Sax metal workshop, only the best medical toy you have used!”. You can purchase it here, if you’d like to try it. I certainly recommend it. We’ve had a lot of fun with it … and we’ve only just begun.

If you’d like to peruse full sets check out this link.

Another aspect of sounds that you might like to explore is jewelry that incorporate sounds, such as cock wands, plugs and wedges. One we’ve always wanted to try is the Prince Albert’s Wand, which is:

“in its simplest form, is a urethral sound held in place by a PA piercing (although any urethral piercing – ampallang, PA, or apadravya – can hold them). Its purpose is urethral stimulation. Most people wear them only for play, but some people wear them all the time”

Another interesting design is the pound puppy:

a short prince’s wand that requires an ampallang piercing and two off-centre PA piercings… Resulting in a piece of custom jewelry that looks somewhat like a little pound puppy plush toy”

I’ve also seen urethral vibrators for sale:


I think that is the next toy we’ll buy from S(A)X *grin*.

There are also toys like the “Zeus Electrosex Urethral Sound” around. Mistress Satet sells them, the blurb reads:

“The electrical urethral sounds takes [urethral play] one step further. Split into two poles, it runs a current from one end to the other through the penis of the user for an incredible experience”

It’s a toy to work towards, we definitely don’t have the experience yet!

But you can see what I mean, about the potential of urethral play toys . They all sound like fun … if you’ll excuse the pun :)

REFERENCES AND ONLINE RESOURCES:

BMEzine.com – article with links to images of urethral sounds

Chase Union:

Go Ask Alice!: “Cock-stuffing”

Kennedy RayUrethral play

Tom A Gordon – Sounds series (republished on several sites including MedicalToys.com)

Savage Love – “Playing Doctor” October 18, 2001

Wiki Urethral Sounds

FORUMS:
Fetlife’s sounding groups have threads on how to proceed and good links etc:

Bad Dragon – Forum:

BDSM weblog:

Tribes threads:

Sin Central:

MOVIES / VIDEOS:
Sounding #1

“Ty” being fucked in her urethra

Video which includes female urethral catheterization

BOOKS:

Hardy Haberman, Fetish Diva Midori.
The Family Jewels: A Guide to Male Genital Play and Torment.
Greenery Press, 2001. ISBN 189015934

Thank you’s:
Sincere thanks to Steve Sax for providing the fabulous implement
that’s guiding our sounding explorations!
And also:
To all the wonderful urethral players I’ve quoted who’ve
shared their sounding experiences and advice online

Photos:
Ms160
Sound and
urethral vibrator – S(A)X
Zeus Electrosex Urethral Sound
- MistressSatet’s Online Store

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